# Spin 1/2 representation of a particle

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Tio Barnabe
A spin 1/2 particle is represented by a spinor while its position is represented by a three-vector. What object should we use to represent such particle if we want to consider both features? That is, what object should we use if we want to consider both spin and space position?

It seems there's not a obvious way to make a product between a spinor and a three-vector.

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Orodruin
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There is an obvious way. The tensor product.

Tio Barnabe
The tensor product.
Even that spinors are not tensors?

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Even that spinors are not tensors?
Spinors belong to a vector space.

dextercioby
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Even that spinors are not tensors?
One can show that, if ##V^{\mu}## are components of a 4-vector, i.e. an object transforming under the fundamental representation of the restricted Lorentz group, then

$$\psi_{\alpha\dot{\beta}} =: \eta_{\mu\nu}V^{\mu}\left(\sigma^{\nu}\right)_{\alpha\dot{\beta}}$$

are the components of a spinor tensor with respect to the ##\mbox{SL}(2,\mathbb{C})## group.

vanhees71
As commented above there are finite dimensional spinorial representations of the Lorentz group that relates those objects without any contradiction. Maybe what makes you uneasy and don't know how to pinpoint mathematically is that these finite dimensional representations of the Lorentz group when irreducible are not unitary since the group is not compact. This is why one has to turn to infinite dimensional representations. Still, QFT makes use of the finite dimensional representations in the rest frame(since in the neighbourhood of the identity unitarity is retained) of massive particles and it constructs their invariant mass and spin with its Lie algebra Casimir invariants.

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@RockyMarciano: Please read and understand Wigner's paper on the unitary irreps. of the proper orthochronous Poincare group or any good textbook on the subject like, e.g., Weinberg, QT of Fields, Vol. I.

RockyMarciano
@RockyMarciano: Please read and understand Wigner's paper on the unitary irreps. of the proper orthochronous Poincare group or any good textbook on the subject like, e.g., Weinberg, QT of Fields, Vol. I.
Are you referring to this part of my post?:
Still, QFT makes use of the finite dimensional representations in the rest frame(since in the neighbourhood of the identity unitarity is retained) of massive particles and it constructs their invariant mass and spin with its Lie algebra Casimir invariants.
I saw that it was misleadingly worded when it was late to edit it.
Of course the only unitary irrep used is the infinite dimensional one and the Casimir invariants belong to this infinite dimensional unitary representation. When talking about the finite dimensional rep I was thinking about the rotational group that is the subgroup of the Lorentz group that leaves the subspace rep of vanishing three-momentum invariant. The sentence is not correct as written since I didn't specify I was referring to the rotations subgroup. Apologies.

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