Spin Matrices for Multiple Particles

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I have two questions, but the second is only worth asking if the answer to the first is yes:
Are the spin matrices for three particles, with the same spin,
σ ⊗ I ⊗ I,
I ⊗ σ ⊗ I
and
I ⊗ I ⊗ σ
for particles 1, 2 and 3 respectively, where σ is the spin matrix for a single one of the particles?

I know that the spin matrices for two particles are
σ ⊗ I and
I ⊗ σ
for particles 1 and 2 respectively, so I am guessing that the same is the case for when there are more than two particles.
 
Nice - thanks for the quick answer ;)

What I was wanting to ask was whether the following is a way to generalise the spin matrices for each of N particles:

Equation for the generalised spin operator sigma_w superscript a: a tensor product of identity matrices of dimension dim(V) on a-1 factors, sigma_w, and identity matrices of dimension dim(V) on N-a factors.


Where w is the direction, a is the matrix/particle number, N is the number of particles and dim(V) = (2s + 1)^N, where s is the spin of each particle (1/2 for spin 1/2, 1 for spin 1 etc.).
 
You have to check again what the notations used in that expression mean. For instance, does the first ##I_{dim(V)}## means that it is actually a series of (Kronecker) product of ##a-1## individual identity matrices? If yes, then ##dim(V) = 2s+1##, that is, the dimension of the spin space corresponding to a single particle.
I think that is indeed the case there since the dimensions of the first and second ##I## are denoted identically.
 
Ah yes, I made a mistake there - yeh, the subscript of the identity matrices should be just 2s+1, and the a-1 and N-a under the brackets are the number of Kronecker/tensor products to have - for example, for 8 spin 1 particles, the 3rd matrix would be:

Equation showing sigma_w^3 as a tensor product: I3 tensor I3 tensor sigma_w tensor I3 tensor I3 tensor I3 tensor I3 tensor I3, where I3 denotes the 3x3 identity matrix.


...which is a rather large matrix...
 
There is a problem though:

If I add together the three spin matrices (z-direction) for 3 spin 1/2 particles, I get:
8x8 diagonal matrix with diagonal entries 3, 1, 1, -1, 0... no: entries 3, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 in row 1; 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 in row 2; 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0 in row 3; 0, 0, 0, -1, 0, 0, 0, 0 in row 4; 0, 0, 0, 0, 1, 0, 0, 0 in row 5; 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, -1, 0, 0 in row 6; 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, -1, 0 in row 7; 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, -3 in row 8.


But surely it should be:
8x8 diagonal matrix with entries 3, 1, 1, 1, -1, -1, -1, -3 down the diagonal and zeros elsewhere, shown in square brackets.
 
It doesn't really matter as long as you remember, which eigenvector (when you have to calculate it) belongs to which eigenvalue. For example the eigenvector ##(0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0)^T## belongs to eigenvalue ##-\hbar## in the upper matrix, but belongs to ##\hbar## in the lower one.