Spooky action at a distance - gravitons

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The discussion revolves around the nature of gravity, specifically addressing why it is perceived as weaker than other fundamental forces and the concept of "spooky action at a distance." Participants explore various hypotheses and clarify terminologies related to gravity and entanglement.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the reasons behind gravity being weaker than expected, suggesting that finding a definitive explanation could lead to significant recognition, such as a Nobel prize.
  • Others propose that small extra dimensions might be a possible explanation for the weakness of gravity, although they acknowledge this as a hypothesis without deeper implications necessarily required.
  • There is a clarification that "spooky action at a distance" is primarily associated with entanglement and not directly related to gravity or gravitons.
  • Participants note that "action at a distance" applies to various forces, including gravity, but emphasize that the term "spooky" is specifically linked to entanglement.
  • One participant suggests a hypothetical mechanism for gravity involving the warping of spacetime, although this is presented as a personal theory.
  • A later reply indicates that personal theories are not welcomed in the discussion, leading to a closure of the thread.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between gravity and "spooky action at a distance," with some asserting that the two concepts are unrelated. There is no consensus on the mechanism of gravity or its comparative weakness, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of definitive answers regarding the mechanism of gravity and the dependence on various interpretations of "action at a distance." The discussion also reflects a range of assumptions about the nature of fundamental forces.

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What is the explanation for gravity being weaker than expected?
 
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"Expected"? What do you expect?
Find the reason why gravity is so weak compared to other interactions, and you'll win the nobel prize. Small extra dimensions are a possible explanation, but they are just a hypothesis. There does not have to be some deeper reason at all.

This has nothing to do with "spooky action at a distance" or gravitons.
 
"action at a distance"

I thought "action at a distance" was a term used for both gravity and entanglement.
 
keepit said:
What is the explanation for gravity being weaker than expected?

"spooky action at a distance", the title of your post, is a term sometimes used to describe entanglement. As mfb said, this has NOTHING to do with gravity or gravitrons
 
keepit said:
I thought "action at a distance" was a term used for both gravity and entanglement.

Well gravity certainly has action at a distance, as does the electromagnetic force and the strong force and the weak force. There's nothing spooky about any of it though, that's a term used only with entanglement.

EDIT: the distances involved with the various forces are extremely different and in practical terms, gravity is the one most often associated with "action at a distance" (but again, nothing spooky going on).
 
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so what is the mechanism of gravity?
 
keepit said:
so what is the mechanism of gravity?

Find a definitive answer for that and you will get a Nobel prize. Unite gravity with Quantum Mechanics and you'll get TWO Nobel prizes :smile:
 
If gravity could warp "subtract" space time 1 unit "per moment", then the second "moment" would show acceleration, 1/100 first moment, 1/99 second moment.
 
We don't discuss personal theories here. Thread closed.
 

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