Springs in a car (damped harmonic oscillator)

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The discussion focuses on solving a physics problem involving a car modeled as a damped harmonic oscillator. The car has a total mass of 1355kg (1250kg empty plus a 105kg occupant) and descends by 2.5cm when the occupant sits down. The spring constant for each of the four springs is calculated to be 132925.5 N/m based on the force exerted by the combined mass. The user seeks assistance in determining the viscosity of the oil in the shock absorbers and the amplitude decrease during oscillation, indicating a need for further clarification on the damping constant.

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This is a problem I've been trying to solve for quite some time now. Any help would be appreciated.

Homework Statement


When a person with the mass of 105kg sits in a car, the body of the car descends by 2,5cm in total. In the car there are four shock absorbers filled with oil and a spring around each of them. The mass of an empty car is 1250kg. When the car drives over a bump in the road, the body of the car starts oscillating vertically at the frequency of 0,85Hz.

a) Determine the spring constant of each spring
b) Determine the viscosity of the oil, when it is assumed that the viscosity is 1/10000 of the value of the damping constant b (-kx - bv = ma).
c) How much does the amplitude of the vibration of the car body decrease during one oscillation? Hint: Calculate the ratio of the amplitudes of two consecutive oscillations.


Homework Equations


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_oscillator#Damped_harmonic_oscillator


The Attempt at a Solution


The first one I think I can solve
a)
m = (1250kg+105kg)/4 = 338,75kg
x = 2,5cm = 0,025m
g = 9,81m/s^2

k = F/x = mg/x = (338,75kg*9,81m/s^2)/0.025m = 132925,5N/m

However, after that no matter what I try, I'm not really getting anywhere. I always end up in a situation where I feel some information is missing when trying to solve for the damping constant.
 
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Define: M=unoccupied mass of car, m=mass of occupants.

If you want to use (M+m)g=keffx ... then x needs to be the total amount the springs are compressed from having no car on them. You don't have that figure.

for b and c I need to see what you are trying.
 

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