Springs: Speed when released & distance traveled.

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a block and a spring. The block, with a mass of 1.6 kg, is compressed against a spring with a spring constant of 1.0 x 10^3 N/m and released on a frictionless surface. Participants are tasked with calculating the speed of the block at the equilibrium position and the distance it travels before coming to rest under the influence of friction.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of energy conservation and kinematic equations to solve for the speed and distance. There is uncertainty about the correct approach for part (b), with some suggesting the work-energy principle and others proposing the use of Newton's second law.

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Some participants have confirmed the correctness of the calculation for part (a) and provided hints for part (b). Multiple methods are being explored, including energy conservation and kinematic equations, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach. Concerns about the application of formulas and the interpretation of variables have been raised.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the effects of friction and the initial conditions of the block's motion. There is an ongoing discussion about the assumptions made regarding the forces acting on the block and the definitions of variables in the equations used.

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A 1.6 kg block is pushed into a spring with spring constant of 1.0 x 10^3 N/m. The spring is compressed a distance of 2.0 cm [0.02m], and the block is released from rest in the horizontal direction.

(a) Calculate the speed of the block as it passes through the equilibrium position at x = 0, if the surface is frictionless.

(b) How far does the block travel before coming to rest? Assume a constant friction force of 4.0 N and the same initial conditions as before.
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Formula I used for (a)

v = √[k/m (A^2 - x^2)]

v = √[1000/1.6 (0.02^2 - 0^2)]
v = 0.5m/s

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Not sure about (a), But I have no clue as to (b)..

Should I used the work formula?
Work (J) = Force x distance
 
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Part a is correct.

Hint: Use Newton's second law followed by kinematic equation relating velocity, acceleration, and distance. Or use work energy relationship.
 
This should work for (b):

Conserving energy:
(1/2)×k x2 = f * d

where, k is spring constant, x is the compression of the spring, f is the frictional force, d is the distance traveled by the block before coming to a halt.
 
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AudioFlux said:
This should work for (b):

Conserving energy:
(1/2)×k x2 = f * d

where, k is spring constant, x is the compression of the spring, f is the frictional force, d is the distance traveled by the block before coming to a halt.

This gave me the same result [5cm, 0.05m] as one of the ways I tried it originally:

[v^2 = u^2 + 2ad]
Where:
a = F/m = 4N / 1.6kg = 2.5ms^-2
v = 0.5ms^-1
u = 0ms^-1

(0.5)^2 = (0) + 2 (2.5) d
0.25 = 5d
d = 0.25/5
d = 0.05m [5cm]

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Your method:
(1/2)×k x^2 = Ff * d
Where:
Ff = 4N
k = 1000
x = 0.02

(1/2)× (1000) (0.02^2) = 4 * d
500 x 0.0004 = 4 * d
0.2 = 4 * d
d = 0.2 / 4
d = 0.05m [5cm]
 
Bradyns said:
This gave me the same result [5cm, 0.05m] as one of the ways I tried it originally:

[v^2 = u^2 + 2ad]
Where:
a = F/m = 4N / 1.6kg = 2.5ms^-2
v = 0.5ms^-1
u = 0ms^-1

(0.5)^2 = (0) + 2 (2.5) d
0.25 = 5d
d = 0.25/5
d = 0.05m [5cm]

firstly, you put incorrect values into the formula v2=u2+2ad
v is the final velocity, u is the initial velocity. the final velocity has to be 0, as the block stops due to frictional force. secondly, you have taken the velocity that you obtained from (a), which is the velocity of the block if frictional force was not acting. also, the acceleration should be negative, because the block is decelerating due to the frictional force. also,

d = 0.25/5
d = 0.05m [5cm]

if you want to get the answer using your method, first find the velocity of the block where it leaves the spring, you can do this using energy conservation. now you can apply v2=u2+2ad
 

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