Squeeze theorem trig question. Please and thanks

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The discussion revolves around understanding the limit of a function as x approaches infinity, specifically focusing on the expression involving the Squeeze Theorem and trigonometric functions. Participants are exploring how to simplify the expression and the significance of terms as x increases.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss how the term 1 becomes insignificant compared to 3x as x approaches infinity. There are attempts to explain this through various perspectives, including the behavior of the cosine function and its bounds.

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The discussion is active with participants questioning the significance of certain terms in the limit expression. Some have provided explanations regarding the behavior of the cosine function, while others are still seeking clarity on specific points, such as the bounds of cosine squared.

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There is a mention of the original problem statement and the constraints regarding the cosine function, specifically its range. Participants are encouraged to clarify their understanding of the problem setup and the implications of the terms involved.

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Homework Statement



Ok, you can see the question and how far I got from the image.

Lim x--> infinity

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So, let's take the LEFT side: how does 3x-1 / x turn into just 3?

I know the answer is 3, but from where you can see in the pic, that is where I get stuck, and don't know how to go on from there.

THanks!

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hi nukeman! :smile:
nukeman said:
So, let's take the LEFT side: how does 3x-1 / x turn into just 3?

the 1 becomes insignificant compared to 3x as x -> ∞, so that leaves you with 3x/x, which is 3

alternatively: (3x-1)/x = 3 - 1/x, and 1/x -> 0 as x -> ∞, so 3 - 1/x -> 3 :wink:
 
How does the 1 become insignificant? That is what I am having trouble understanding. :(

Thanks for the reply :)
 
nukeman said:
How does the 1 become insignificant?

because the 3x becomes 30000 then 30000000000 then 300000000000000 and so on, and the tiddly little 1 doesn't matter much any more :redface:
 
nukeman said:

Homework Statement



Ok, you can see the question and how far I got from the image.

Lim x--> infinity

14ieels.jpg


So, let's take the LEFT side: how does 3x-1 / x turn into just 3?

I know the answer is 3, but from where you can see in the pic, that is where I get stuck, and don't know how to go on from there.

THanks!
It generally helps us, if you state the problem you're trying to solve.

In this case it appears to be:
Find [itex]\displaystyle \lim_{x\,\to\,\infty} \frac{3x+\cos^2(100x)}{x}\ .[/itex]​

By the way: [itex]0\le \cos^2(100x)\le 1\ .[/itex]
 
SammyS said:
It generally helps us, if you state the problem you're trying to solve.

In this case it appears to be:
Find [itex]\displaystyle \lim_{x\,\to\,\infty} \frac{3x+\cos^2(100x)}{x}\ .[/itex]​

By the way: [itex]0\le \cos^2(100x)\le 1\ .[/itex]

why is it 0≤ instead of -1?
 
nukeman said:
why is it 0≤ instead of -1?
I meant to ask you !
 
limit as x -> infinity of [ 3x + cos^{2}(100x)] / x

I thought it would -1 ≤ cos^2(100x) ≤ 1

since a cos has amplitude of -1 and 1 ?
 
nukeman said:
limit as x -> infinity of [ 3x + cos^{2}(100x)] / x

I thought it would -1 ≤ cos^2(100x) ≤ 1

since a cos has amplitude of -1 and 1 ?
Right regarding cos(x).

How about cos2(x)? Is that ever negative?
 
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wow, how did I NOT know that! :(

Ok thanks... I got that now.

So the left side would be 3x/x correct? so, then I would put each term over x, leaving 3 and 1 (3 * 1 = 3) correct?
 
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nukeman said:
wow, how did I NOT know that! :(

Ok thanks... I got that now.

So the left side would be 3x/x correct? so, then I would put each term over x, leaving 3 and 1 (3 * 1 = 3) correct?
Please write the expression that you're trying to describe .
 

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