[static equilibrium] pin and link support type

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the differences between pin and link supports in static equilibrium, focusing on their reaction forces and the conditions under which they operate. Participants explore theoretical aspects and practical implications of these support types in structural analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express confusion regarding the classification of support types, particularly the distinction between pin and link supports.
  • It is noted that a pin support typically provides two reaction force components (fx and fy), while a link support may only provide one component (fx) under certain conditions.
  • One participant clarifies that point G is a pin support but only exhibits a horizontal reaction due to being a '2-force' member, which can only support axial loads.
  • Another participant emphasizes that all members of a truss are considered '2-force' members when loads are applied at the joints, leading to specific reaction force behaviors.
  • There is a reference to an external resource that discusses link supports, suggesting that the reasoning for link supports is similar to that of pin supports, with axial forces being the primary concern.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that point G is a pin support, but there is contention regarding the conditions under which it provides only one force component. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the broader implications of these support types and their classifications.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific conditions, such as the concept of '2-force' members and equilibrium considerations, which may not be universally applicable without further context or definitions.

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Hello every one

I am confused between two support type:
the pin, and the link

On the textbook, it says, the pin prevents the object from translating vertically and horzontally, therefore, it provides fx and fy reaction forces.

but another type of support is much identical to the pin, which is the link support, the photo is here: http://imageshack.us/f/105/pinconnectiontw4.jpg/

at point A, the beam AB is subjected to the pin support, so it has two components of reaction forces, namely fx and fy

but what about at point G, how come it only provides one force components, namely fx, but not fy as well? is the point G also classified as pin support?
i am very confused; instructor said that whenever u see a pin support, there's two force components; how come this is not a case here?
 
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is the link support the beam which connects from GB, and pin support the node at G and A?
 


G is a pinned support as well as A. The reason there is reaction in x only at G is because member GB can support axial loads only.
 
kougou said:
Hello every one

I am confused between two support type:
the pin, and the link

On the textbook, it says, the pin prevents the object from translating vertically and horzontally, therefore, it provides fx and fy reaction forces.

but another type of support is much identical to the pin, which is the link support, the photo is here: http://imageshack.us/f/105/pinconnectiontw4.jpg/

at point A, the beam AB is subjected to the pin support, so it has two components of reaction forces, namely fx and fy

but what about at point G, how come it only provides one force components, namely fx, but not fy as well? is the point G also classified as pin support?
i am very confused; instructor said that whenever u see a pin support, there's two force components; how come this is not a case here?
Yes, point G is a pin support. In general, there are 2 force components at a pin, in the x and y direction, but in some cases, such as joint G, there is only one. This is due to equilibrium considerations for so called '2-force' members. A 2-force member is a member subjected to a force (applied or a reaction force) at each end with no forces applied in between. All members of a truss are 2 force members when loads are applied at the joints only. Member BG is a 2-force member. As such, it can only take axial loading in tension or compression along its longitudinal axis. Thus , the reaction at G must be entirely horizontal; otherwise, the resultant reaction force could not be directed along the BG axis.

EDIT: I notice you are posting the same question in the ME sub-forum. You should stick to that forum and communicate further with the responder if you have additional questions.
 
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PhanthomJay said:
Yes, point G is a pin support. In general, there are 2 force components at a pin, in the x and y direction, but in some cases, such as joint G, there is only one. This is due to equilibrium considerations for so called '2-force' members. A 2-force member is a member subjected to a force (applied or a reaction force) at each end with no forces applied in between. All members of a truss are 2 force members when loads are applied at the joints only. Member BG is a 2-force member. As such, it can only take axial loading in tension or compression along its longitudinal axis. Thus , the reaction at G must be entirely horizontal; otherwise, the resultant reaction force could not be directed along the BG axis.

EDIT: I notice you are posting the same question in the ME sub-forum. You should stick to that forum and communicate further with the responder if you have additional questions.

apologize, this is my first time to use this forum... . I will never do that again.

and what about this http://www.ecourses.ou.edu/cgi-bin/view_anime.cgi?file=512LIN.swf&course=st&chap_sec=05.1, the link support, which is very similar to the pin support? Same reasoning as well?
 
kougou said:
apologize, this is my first time to use this forum... . I will never do that again.

and what about this http://www.ecourses.ou.edu/cgi-bin/view_anime.cgi?file=512LIN.swf&course=st&chap_sec=05.1, the link support, which is very similar to the pin support? Same reasoning as well?
Welcome to Physics forums, kougou! Yes, same reasoning for a link support; the support reactions are always directed along the longitudinal axis of the member, creating only tension or compression axial forces in the member, regardless of the angle of the link, provided that there are no forces applied in between the 2 ends. NOTE that when the link is at an angle, there are still x and y components of the link reaction forces, but their resultant sum is a single force directed axially along the link, no bending or shear stresses.
 

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