Statical moment of area, Q, for Semi-Circle

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The discussion revolves around determining the statical moment of area, Q, for a semi-circle in the context of a thin-walled member's cross-section. Participants are exploring the mathematical derivation and integration involved in calculating Q, including the implications of different integration limits and the validity of a provided hint value.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster seeks to calculate the statical moment of area, Q, for a semi-circle and has attempted to derive it using integration.
  • Some participants question the integration limits, suggesting that the integral should be evaluated from theta to 0.5*pi instead of from zero to theta.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the correctness of the hint value provided for Q, indicating a potential discrepancy in the calculations.
  • Another participant acknowledges that the hint value was copied correctly but suspects that there may have been an error in its derivation.
  • Links to external solutions are shared, but their relevance to the discussion remains unclear.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the correctness of the hint value for Q or the appropriate limits for integration. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding the calculations and interpretations presented.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the assumptions underlying the integration limits and the derivation of the hint value for Q. The discussion reflects a dependence on specific definitions and interpretations of the geometry involved.

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Determine the location e of the shear center, pint O, for the thin-walled member having the cross section shown.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/8732/scannedimage058.jpg

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I'd like to find the statistical moment of area, Q, for a semi-circle in general; using this I should be able to generate Q = Q(R_outer) - Q(R_inner); I've been provided with such a Q as a hint but have failed to produce this value on my own ( 1/3 * (R_outer^3 - R_inner^3)) sin (theta) ).

I begin by determining the area A' by noting that its:
(area of circle)/4 - (area of circle in proportion to theta) - (triangle underneath shaded area)
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/34/scannedimage059.jpg
I took its derivative and use C for theta:
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/2466/scannedimage060.jpg

I used a calculator for integration.

What am I doing wrong?
 
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lizzyb: Your integral looks correct. But I didn't understand yet why you are integrating from zero to theta. Maybe I'm missing something, but shouldn't that be integrated from theta to 0.5*pi?

I am currently getting Q(theta) = 0.3333(r_outer^3 - r_inner^3)*cos(theta)^3. I currently have no idea how they obtained that hint value for Q; so far, it does not look correct. Are you relatively certain the hint value is correct?
 
Its correct in that I dutifully copied the hint value but perhaps someone somewhere messed up; I don't see how they got it.

The hints assign r_i = r - t/2 and r_o as r + t/2.
 
lizzyb: Did you uncover any other information regarding why they claim Q is that hint value you listed in post 1?
 
This is from the solutions:
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9210/scannedimage061.jpg
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1713/scannedimage062.jpg
 
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