Statics - beam forces and moments

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The discussion focuses on analyzing beam forces and moments in a statics problem, highlighting confusion between "moment" and "momentum." It emphasizes starting the analysis from the end of the beam for simplicity and correcting the momentum calculations, noting that the momentum should be zero at the h section. The participants agree that the vertical beam can be conceptually replaced with a rope since only vertical forces are present, negating the need for momentum. Additionally, the moment in the horizontal section is identified as P(b-x), likening it to a cantilever beam scenario. Overall, the conversation clarifies key concepts in static beam analysis.
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Summary:: I did the first section but I am having a hard time with the second. would like to find the moment in the next section (from b to h)

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I don't think your momentum is right. The momentum in the top beam ranges from 0 at the corner to Pb at the wall, so pb+px can't be right, however you define x. (I don't see it on the drawing)
When analyzing a beam in wall/floor problem, it's usually easiest to start at the end of the beam. The section from h to the end is very simple, so you can also analyze the section from the cut in the top beam to the end at once. There really shouldn't be a problem if you set the total force and the momentum at any point at 0.
 
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you were right about the b section. I corrected it. I ended up with a constant momentum of zero at the h section. does this make sense to you?
 
I think you can replace the vertical beam with a rope. There's only vertical forces, so how could there be a momentum?
 
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I don't think your momentum is right. The momentum in the top beam ranges from 0 at the corner to Pb at the wall
almoga said:
you were right about the b section. I corrected it. I ended up with a constant momentum of zero at the h section
If this is truly a statics problem, there is no momentum involved at all. There seems to be confusion between a "moment" and "momentum." They are quite different matters.
 
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willem2 said:
I think you can replace the vertical beam with a rope. There's only vertical forces, so how could there be a momentum?
You need to balance forces and also moments.
 
The moment in the horizontal section is P(b-x). Basically, this is the same thing as a cantilever beam without the vertical section.
 
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