Statistics: variable transformation proof?

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The discussion revolves around a proof related to variable transformation in statistics, specifically concerning the relationship between random variables and their probability distributions. The original poster questions the validity of the assumption that \( Y = u(X) \) implies \( y = u(x) \) and seeks to understand how to prove this relationship.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of the transformation \( Y = u(X) \) and the necessity of the one-to-one nature of the function \( u \). There is an attempt to relate the probability distributions of \( X \) and \( Y \) through their respective functions.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the definitions of the probability distributions involved and the importance of the one-to-one assumption in the transformation. The discussion appears to be progressing with participants building on each other's insights.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of potential complications arising from non-monotone functions, which could affect the one-to-one mapping necessary for the proof. The original poster expresses confusion about the next steps in their reasoning.

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Homework Statement


Ok this might be a stupid question, but:

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Why is this the case? I think for all of this to be right, then the assumption of ##Y=u(X) \Leftrightarrow y=u(x)##. But how do I prove this?

The Attempt at a Solution



An attempt: OK, assume ##X## has a probability distribution given by ##f(x)##, and ##Y=2X## has a probability distribution of ##g(x)##. Then if ##Y = u(X)##, with w being the inverse one-on-one function of u, ##P(X=x) = P(w(Y)=x) = P(Y=u(x))=P(Y=y=u(x))##.

This is as far as I got, but now I am confused. What to do?
 
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You're almost there. Note by definition that

g(y) = P\{Y = y\}

and you must prove that

g(y) = f(w(y))

which is by definition

f(w(y)) = P\{X = w(y)\}

So you must somehow find why

P\{Y = y\} = P\{X=w(y)\}
 
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OK, I see. Thanks for the help :)
 
Nikitin said:

Homework Statement


Ok this might be a stupid question, but:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t31/q77/s720x720/10001118_10202561443653973_1625797585_o.jpg
Why is this the case? I think for all of this to be right, then the assumption of ##Y=u(X) \Leftrightarrow y=u(x)##. But how do I prove this?

The Attempt at a Solution



An attempt: OK, assume ##X## has a probability distribution given by ##f(x)##, and ##Y=2X## has a probability distribution of ##g(x)##. Then if ##Y = u(X)##, with w being the inverse one-on-one function of u, ##P(X=x) = P(w(Y)=x) = P(Y=u(x))=P(Y=y=u(x))##.

This is as far as I got, but now I am confused. What to do?

You already got the answer below, but just to clarify: the one-to-one assumption is crucial. If you had a non-monotone function, such as ##u(x) = x^2##, and if the range of ##X## included both positive and negative values, then the mapping ##Y = u(X)## might not be 1:1, and so you might need a more complicated evaluation of ##P(Y = y)##.
 
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