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The discussion revolves around determining the values of k for which the function f(x) = kx^-(k+1) serves as a probability density function (PDF) over the interval (1, ∞). Participants explore the conditions necessary for f(x) to integrate to one and satisfy the properties of a PDF.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of setting k to various values, including k = 0, and question whether this satisfies the conditions for a PDF. There are attempts to integrate the function and concerns about the behavior of the integral, particularly regarding convergence and the definition of the function outside the specified interval.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts at integration and questioning the validity of certain assumptions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the definition of the function and the limits of integration, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach or the values of k.

Contextual Notes

There are mentions of integration challenges and the need to treat k as a constant during integration. The function is defined only for x > 1, which raises questions about the relevance of negative bounds in the integral.

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Homework Statement


A function f( x ) had the following form : f ( x) = kx^-(k+1) where 1 < x < infinity

a) for what values of k is f a pdf ?


Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


started out by using the first equation in the attachment, for stuck with kx^-(k+1) = 0 and Got stuck there... well the only way k will satisfy the equation is that if it is equal to 0... but I'm not sure if that is the answer.

Tried using the 2nd equation, integration was long, and i encountered logs, K turned out to have a single value of 0.00693
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ok i figured that my first attempt was right and that k is > = 0 . But i just want to confirm this, and i don't really feel like deleting my post after writing it out
 

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Hi mohdhm! :smile:
mohdhm said:
A function f( x ) had the following form : f ( x) = kx^-(k+1) where 1 < x < infinity

a) for what values of k is f a pdf ?

ok i figured that my first attempt was right and that k is > = 0 . But i just want to confirm this, and i don't really feel like deleting my post after writing it out

erm … are you sure about k = 0? :wink:
 
What is your function? Is it (kx)^{-k-1} or k * x^{-k-1}
 
to dirk_mec1: it is the 2nd function you listed, sorry for not being clear.

tiny-tim: well k=0 works for all positive values of x and satisfies the first equation. So i guess I'm Sure. also, any positive number k will yield a positive answer which also satisfies the equation. but i have this... conflicting hunch, i want to use the integral, but i tried and it was just a big mess, am i on the right track ?
 
Just because a function is semi-positive definite does not mean it qualifies as a PDF. The area under the function must be one. In your example, if k=0, f(x;k) reduces to f(x)=0. The area under this function is definitely not one.

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mohdhm said:
Tried using the 2nd equation, integration was long, and i encountered logs, K turned out to have a single value of 0.00693
This function integrates easily with respect to x. Treat k as a constant when doing the integral.
 
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lol... yeah i did treat K as a constant. Well i can give this integral yet another go, might post my work too since i haven't done integrals for a while
 
DH you are absolutely wrong, there is no way that integral with bounds of negative infinity to positive infinity, can work out. The whole thing just blows up when i get to the logs part. i get a negative value when converting bases, and the whole thing turns into a mess. So what's up guys, can anyone drop me a hint that can lead me on the right path ?
 
Hi mohdhm! :smile:
mohdhm said:
DH you are absolutely wrong, there is no way that integral with bounds of negative infinity to positive infinity, can work out. The whole thing just blows up when i get to the logs part. i get a negative value when converting bases, and the whole thing turns into a mess. So what's up guys, can anyone drop me a hint that can lead me on the right path ?

erm … the -∞ part of the integral doesn't matter …

f(x) is only defined, in the question, for 1 ≤ x ≤ +∞ …

in other words, f(x) = 0 for -∞ < x ≤ 1. :wink:

Try again! :smile:
 

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