Statistics: probability distribution problem

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving two independent observations, ##X_1## and ##X_2##, which are continuous random variables with a specified probability density function, ##f(x) = 1/k## for ##0 \leq x \leq k##. Participants are tasked with finding the cumulative distribution function (CDF) of ##X##, the probability distribution of the maximum ##M## of ##X_1## and ##X_2##, and demonstrating that ##1.5M## is an unbiased estimator of ##k##.

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  • Some participants attempt to derive the CDF from the given probability density function, while others question the clarity of the original problem statement regarding the observations of the random variables.
  • There is a discussion about the correct interpretation of the cumulative distribution function and the need for a double integral to find the distribution of the maximum of the two observations.
  • Participants also explore the implications of the definitions and setup, with some suggesting that the original poster's phrasing may lead to confusion.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on each other's interpretations and calculations. Some have offered clarifications regarding the definitions of random variables and their distributions, while others are still seeking answers to specific parts of the problem.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the phrasing of the problem, particularly in relation to the number of observations and the nature of the random variables involved. Participants are also navigating the constraints of the homework assignment, which may limit the depth of their discussions.

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Homework Statement



two indepedent observations ##X_1## and ##X_2## are made up of the continuous random variable having the probability density function ## f(x)= 1/k##, and ## 0≤x≤k##
find a. the cumulative distribution of ##X##
b. Find the probability distribution of M, the larger of ##X_1## and ##X_2##
c. Show that 1.5M is an unbiased estimator of## k##.

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part (a)
given ##f(x)= 1/k, ##, then cdf, ##F(X)=∫ {1/k}dx## = ##1 ##
limits from ##0## to ##k##
##k=1##→ the cumulative distribution function , ##F(X)=x##
 
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chwala said:
two indepedent observations ##X_1## and ##X_2## are made up of the continuous random variable
This is an incorrect and confusing way to say it. Only one observation can be made of any random variable. So what we have is that there are two random variables ##X_1## and ##X_2## that are independent and each of which has the distribution you describe - a uniform distribution on ##[0,k]##.

If ##F_{X_i}## is the cumulative distribution function for ##X_1## and ##X_2## and ##f_{X_i}## is the probability density function, then
$$F_{X_i}(x)=\int_0^x f_{X_i}(u)\,du$$
What is the result of that integral, given that we've been told that ##f_{X_i}(u)=\frac1k## for ##u\in[0,k]##?
It is not 1 unless ##x=k##.

For (b) you will need to write the CDF of the sum as a double integral, over possible values of ##X_1## and ##X_2##. The limits for the inner integral will depend on the value of the outer integration variable.
 
chwala said:

Homework Statement



two indepedent observations ##X_1## and ##X_2## are made up of the continuous random variable having the probability density function ## f(x)= 1/k##, and ## 0≤x≤k##
find a. the cumulative distribution of ##X##
b. Find the probability distribution of M, the larger of ##X_1## and ##X_2##
c. Show that 1.5M is an unbiased estimator of## k##.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



part (a)
given ##f(x)= 1/k, ##, then cdf, ##F(X)=∫ {1/k}dx## = ##1 ##
limits from ##0## to ##k##
##k=1##→ the cumulative distribution function , ##F(X)=x##

Your question (a) is unclear. Does it ask for the distribution of ##X_1+X_2?##

What is your approach to (b)?
 
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Ray Vickson said:
Your question (a) is unclear. Does it ask for the distribution of ##X_1+X_2?##

What is your approach to (b)?
That is how it is exactly on the textbook..
 
chwala said:
That is how it is exactly on the textbook..
I asked you two questions, and you have not answered either of them.
 
Ray Vickson said:
I asked you two questions, and you have not answered either of them.
sorry was a bit held up...i am not sure, i am assuming that the the distribution applies to both ##x_1## and ##x_2##
 
Ray Vickson said:
I asked you two questions, and you have not answered either of them.
see post two above, only one observation can be made for a random variable, hope that answers that...
 
andrewkirk said:
This is an incorrect and confusing way to say it. Only one observation can be made of any random variable. So what we have is that there are two random variables ##X_1## and ##X_2## that are independent and each of which has the distribution you describe - a uniform distribution on ##[0,k]##.

If ##F_{X_i}## is the cumulative distribution function for ##X_1## and ##X_2## and ##f_{X_i}## is the probability density function, then
$$F_{X_i}(x)=\int_0^x f_{X_i}(u)\,du$$
What is the result of that integral, given that we've been told that ##f_{X_i}(u)=\frac1k## for ##u\in[0,k]##?
It is not 1 unless ##x=k##.

For (b) you will need to write the CDF of the sum as a double integral, over possible values of ##X_1## and ##X_2##. The limits for the inner integral will depend on the value of the outer integration variable.
for part (a),
##\int_0^k k^-1\,dx## = ##x/k## using given limits and substituting for ##x##, we get ##1-0 = 1##...unless i am missing something here...
 
andrewkirk said:
This is an incorrect and confusing way to say it. Only one observation can be made of any random variable. So what we have is that there are two random variables ##X_1## and ##X_2## that are independent and each of which has the distribution you describe - a uniform distribution on ##[0,k]##.

If ##F_{X_i}## is the cumulative distribution function for ##X_1## and ##X_2## and ##f_{X_i}## is the probability density function, then
$$F_{X_i}(x)=\int_0^x f_{X_i}(u)\,du$$
What is the result of that integral, given that we've been told that ##f_{X_i}(u)=\frac1k## for ##u\in[0,k]##?
It is not 1 unless ##x=k##.

For (b) you will need to write the CDF of the sum as a double integral, over possible values of ##X_1## and ##X_2##. The limits for the inner integral will depend on the value of the outer integration variable.
therfore for part (a),
## x≤0, F(x)=0##
## 0≤x≤k, F(x)= x/k##
##x≥k, F(x) = 1##
 
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Any feedback?
 
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chwala said:
therfore for part (a),
## x≤0, F(x)=0##
## 0≤x≤k, F(x)= x/k##
##x≥k, F(x) = 1##
Replace ##F## by ##F_{X_i}##, meaning the cumulative distribution function of random variable ##X_i## (for ##i\in\{1,2\}##) and what you have written will be correct for (a).
 
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chwala said:
Any feedback?

Yes. What is your answer to (b)? Ditto for (c).
 

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