Steady state behavior for a particle undergoing damped forced oscillations

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The discussion revolves around a system experiencing damped forced oscillations, focusing on the calculation of instantaneous kinetic and potential energy, as well as their average values and relationships under varying angular frequencies.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss methods for calculating instantaneous kinetic energy and potential energy, with one participant attempting to derive the average kinetic energy through integration over a cycle. Questions arise regarding the limits of integration for potential energy and the relationship between average energies.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing insights on how to approach the calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the integration process for averaging energies, but no consensus has been reached on specific values or final outcomes.

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There is an emphasis on understanding the relationships between kinetic and potential energy in the context of forced oscillations, with participants navigating through the complexities of averaging these quantities over time. The original poster expresses uncertainty about calculating average kinetic energy, indicating a need for further clarification.

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Homework Statement


consider a system with a damping force undergoing forced oscillations at an angular frequency ω
a) what is the instantaneous kinetic energy of the system?
b) what is the instantaneous potential energy of the system?
c) what is the ratio of the average kinetic energy to the average potential energy? express the answer in terms of the ratio ω/ω0
d) for what values of ω are the average kinetic energy and the average potential energy equal? what is the total energy of the system under these conditions?
e) how does the total energy of the system vary with time for an arbitrary value of ω? for what values of ω is the total energy constant in time?

Homework Equations


x = A cos(ωt-δ)
A(ω) = (F0 /mω02) [(ω0/ω)/[(ω0/ω-ω/ω0)2+(1/Q2)]1/2)]

The Attempt at a Solution


i know that K.E = 1/2 m (dx/dt)2

and P.E = 1/2 kx2

so part and b I've got .. but how do u go about calculating the Avg K.E?
 
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You want to integrate the kinetic energy over one cycle:
[tex]\langle K \rangle = \frac{1}{T}\int_0^T \frac{1}{2}mv(t)^2\,dt[/tex]where T is the period of oscillation.
 
So I would go:

ω/2∏ [itex]\int^{ω/(2∏)}_{0}[/itex] 1/2 m (dx/dt)2?

so would P.E go from 0 to A then?

Thanks a ton btw! you really helped me get started with this HW
 
You'd still average the potential over one cycle by integrating with respect to time and dividing by the period.
 
Thank you so very much! You are very kind! :)
 

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