Steady state solution of a differential equation

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The discussion revolves around understanding the concept of a steady state solution in the context of a differential equation, particularly as it relates to a MATLAB assignment. Participants are exploring the implications of steady state solutions and their representation in mathematical terms.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are questioning the definition of a steady state solution, with some suggesting it refers to a particular solution of the non-homogeneous equation. Others are discussing the relevance of transient solutions and how they relate to steady state behavior.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering different interpretations of the steady state concept and its application to the problem at hand. There is a mix of attempts to clarify definitions and explore the mathematical implications of the solutions presented.

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Some participants express frustration with the instructional approach of the course, indicating a lack of guidance on the topic. There are also references to specific mathematical expressions and concerns about the behavior of the solutions over time.

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Homework Statement



Hey.


I am taking a MATLAB class and my instructor is absolutely horrendous. he does not teach us anything, but asks questions on everything.


I'm having a problem with the following question:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/641/55811089.png/


What is a steady state solution of a differential equation? How can i solve the attached problem in matlab?


Thanks a lot.

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The Attempt at a Solution

 
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asi123 said:

Homework Statement



Hey.


I am taking a MATLAB class and my instructor is absolutely horrendous. he does not teach us anything, but asks questions on everything.


I'm having a problem with the following question:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/641/55811089.png/


What is a steady state solution of a differential equation? How can i solve the attached problem in matlab?


Thanks a lot.

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The Attempt at a Solution


Steady-state means the solution is not changing with respect to time, that is, the first derivative is zero. However, when I solve that in Mathematica, I get:

\left\{\left\{y\to \text{Function}\left[\{t\},e^{\left(-\frac{2}{3}-\frac{\sqrt{19}}{3}\right) t} C[1]+e^{\left(-\frac{2}{3}+\frac{\sqrt{19}}{3}\right) t} C[2]+\frac{36 (17 \text{Cos}[2 t]-8 \text{Sin}[2 t])}{\left(-59+4 \sqrt{19}\right) \left(59+4 \sqrt{19}\right)}\right]\right\}\right\}

so I don't see the relevance of that expression Acos(bt+c). Also, looking at the solution I don't see how it will ever reach a steady state.
 
asi123 said:

Homework Statement



I am taking a MATLAB class and my instructor is absolutely horrendous. he does not teach us anything, but asks questions on everything.I'm having a problem with the following question:

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/641/55811089.png/What is a steady state solution of a differential equation?

Judging from the way the problem is stated, it looks to me like he is using the term "steady state" to refer to a particular solution of the non-homogeneous equation that doesn't include the complementary solution. Doesn't the question specifically say to find A,B, and C?
 
Maybe the question is referring to the way such systems can typically have a transient initial part that dies down and long-term settles down into a regular periodic 'forced' oscillation, that long term part being called the 'steady state'. You almost must have had examples in math and physics already.

Your LHS expressed in operator terms easily factorises into real factors with exponential solutions I think. (Though it alarms me to see one positive and one negative, making me wonder if this has such a steady state; maybe I am mistaken somehow:confused:.) Solve the equation and see how it behaves long-term. Oh, I see you have. The solution does not look right to me, but it does seem to have the problem I mentioned.
 
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