Steps in proof for Eotvos' law

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The discussion centers around the proof of Eötvös' law, specifically focusing on the derivation presented in a referenced article. Participants are seeking clarification on the mathematical steps involved in the proof, particularly from a specific equation to the formulation of Eötvös' law.

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  • One participant references a Wikipedia article claiming that John Lennard-Jones and Corner provided a derivation of Eötvös' law using statistical mechanics, but expresses difficulty in understanding the proof.
  • Another participant suggests a renaming of variables in the equations, noting that the logarithm is negative and constant in temperature, but does not provide further context.
  • A different participant requests a link to the partition function log(F) and seeks clarification on how it relates to the attachment in the first post.
  • Two participants express confusion regarding the notation used in the referenced pages and discuss the relationship between the partition sum and the grand potential, including its implications for entropy, particle number, and pressure.

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Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the notation or the specific mathematical steps required to derive Eötvös' law. Multiple viewpoints and questions remain unresolved.

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I have purchased an article after recommendation on wikipedia that as far as I am aware proves eotvos law. Here is a quote from wikipedia from this site: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eötvös_rule:

''John Lennard-Jones and Corner published (1940) a derivation of the equation by means of statistical mechanics'' I unfortuntaely didn't get the proof. In the attachment at the top of this post which is from the article I wondered if someone could show the arithmetics from (9) to the place that I have marked as eotvos law.

My attempt: No use writing anything unfortunately.
 
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Rename
$$N_s k \log() V^{2/3}\rightarrow -\kappa $$
$$(\psi_0-\phi_0) V^{2/3}/\kappa\rightarrow T_0 $$

note that the logarithm is negative and constant in temperature.
 
Thank you for the answer! I also have tried to find the partition function log(F) somewhere on the internet. But I can not find the same formula. Could someone give me a link to this formula fron the internet and show how it is rewritten to log(F) in the attachment in the beginning of the first post.
 
Can you tell us the reference? I'm a bit puzzled by the notation of the two pages you provided in #1. Usually you have the partion sum ##Z##, which is related to the grand potential ##\Phi=-T \ln Z## (in units where ##k_B=1##) which is a function of ##T##, ##\mu##, and ##V## with the relations to entropy, conserved particle number, and pressure given by
$$S=-\partial_{T} \Phi, \quad N=-\partial_{\mu} \Phi, \quad P=-\partial_V \Phi.$$
 
vanhees71 said:
Can you tell us the reference? I'm a bit puzzled by the notation of the two pages you provided in #1. Usually you have the partion sum ##Z##, which is related to the grand potential ##\Phi=-T \ln Z## (in units where ##k_B=1##) which is a function of ##T##, ##\mu##, and ##V## with the relations to entropy, conserved particle number, and pressure given by
$$S=-\partial_{T} \Phi, \quad N=-\partial_{\mu} \Phi, \quad P=-\partial_V \Phi.$$

This is the page where I bought the article:

http://pubs.rsc.org/EN/content/articlelanding/1940/tf/tf9403601156#!divAbstract
 
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