Sterling approximation of Beta Function

Click For Summary
The discussion centers on applying Stirling's approximation to the Beta function, particularly the term n^x B(x,n). The main challenge is simplifying the resulting equation, especially as n approaches infinity, where the behavior of the function significantly depends on the value of x. By rearranging and using Stirling's approximation for the Gamma functions, participants demonstrate that the limit can be simplified effectively. The key insight involves recognizing the limit of (1 + x/n)^n as n approaches infinity, which helps in resolving the complexity of the equation. Ultimately, the problem simplifies considerably when these concepts are applied correctly.
dykuma
Messages
55
Reaction score
6

Homework Statement


upload_2016-11-1_15-37-21.png

Homework Equations


upload_2016-11-1_15-37-31.png

upload_2016-11-1_15-37-41.png

The Attempt at a Solution


I think this problem is probably a lot simpler than I am making it out to be. However, when I apply sterling's approx., I get a very nasty equation that does not simplify easily.
upload_2016-11-1_15-39-48.png


One of the biggest problems I have though is dealing with that n^x term. it seems to me that as n approaches infinity, the outcome depends heavily on whether x is a positive or negative integer, or if its zero.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Rearrange it to:

n^x B(x,n) =\Gamma(x) n^x \frac{\Gamma(n)}{\Gamma(n+x)}

So what you're really interested in is the limit of

n^x \frac{\Gamma(n)}{\Gamma(n+x)}

Use Sterling's approximation:

\Gamma(n) \approx n^{n+\frac{1}{2}} \sqrt{2 \pi} e^{-n}
\Gamma(n+x) \approx (n+x)^{n+x+\frac{1}{2}} \sqrt{2 \pi} e^{-(n+x)}

Write (n+x)^{n+x+\frac{1}{2}} as (n(1+\frac{x}{n}))^{n+x +\frac{1}{2}} = n^{n+x+\frac{1}{2}} (1+\frac{x}{n})^{n+x+\frac{1}{2}}
= n^{n+\frac{1}{2}} n^x (1+\frac{x}{n})^{n} (1+\frac{x}{n})^{x+\frac{1}{2}}

So
\Gamma(n+x) \approx n^{n+\frac{1}{2}} n^x (1+\frac{x}{n})^{n} (1+\frac{x}{n})^{x+\frac{1}{2}} \sqrt{2 \pi} e^{-(n+x)}

Now, you can just use a fact about e: e^x = lim_{n \rightarrow \infty} (1+\frac{x}{n})^n
 
  • Like
Likes dykuma
Suggest using the simplified Stirling formula without the ## \sqrt{2 \pi n} ##.Then the result follows immediately with ## ln(n+x-1)=ln(n) ## in the limit that n approaches infinity... editing...You can include the ## \sqrt{2 \pi n} ## but in the limit that n approaches infinity, this puts the same factor in the numerator that it does in the denominator.
 
Last edited:
Thanks to both of you! The key to solving that problem noticing the what Steven showed, that
stevendaryl said:
ex=limn→∞(1+xn)n

Then the entire problem simplifies quite nicely.
 
Question: A clock's minute hand has length 4 and its hour hand has length 3. What is the distance between the tips at the moment when it is increasing most rapidly?(Putnam Exam Question) Answer: Making assumption that both the hands moves at constant angular velocities, the answer is ## \sqrt{7} .## But don't you think this assumption is somewhat doubtful and wrong?

Similar threads

  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
12
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K