Stick 2 Rotation: Finding Max Stability

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The problem involves two sticks attached at a point, with one stick placed at a pivot point and the other allowed to rotate freely. The discussion centers on the direction of rotation of the second stick and its implications for stability.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the rotation of the two sticks and the resulting stability, questioning whether the direction of rotation for stick 1 is the same as stick 2. There is also discussion about the role of gravity and the nature of the system, with some participants suggesting it resembles coupled rigid rotors.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants questioning the assumptions about the system's setup and the conditions under which stability is maximized. Some guidance is offered regarding the nature of the sticks and their orientation, but no consensus is reached on the direction of rotation or the specific conditions required for stability.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the initial orientations of the sticks and the potential influence of gravity, while also considering the implications of mass and pivot points in their reasoning.

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Homework Statement


Two sticks 1 and 2 are attached together at the point B and the stick 1 is placed on point A and all these sticks can be rotated with no friction. If the stick 2 rotated freely around point B, in which direction the stick 2 will rotate?


Homework Equations


I°ω°=Iω


The Attempt at a Solution


Once I found out from another question that if these two sticks rotate at the same direction, the stability becomes the maximum.
 

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You mean these are coupled rigid rotors (special case of pendulums)?
The pivot is at point A. Stick 2 starts horizontal and stick 1 starts vertical.
I take it gravity is not a factor here?

So stick 2 starts out with some angular momentum about point B (not it's center of mass).
What does that do to point B?

What level does this need to be done at?
 
This is not a pendulum and these two sticks are placed vertically. If a rotation is given to BC, what will be the rotation direction of AB? I think it's the same direction as BC does. Because it gives the maximum stability to the system then. Am I right? :D
 
What you have described is one of the possible stationary state solutions ... but is it a solution that applies here? Have you been asked for the most stable state? Have you even been asked for a stationary state? Or are you expected to reason out the direction of rotation for stick 1 at the instant shown on the diagram?

If the two sticks are vertical - and they have mass - then it's a pendulum.
You don't have to believe me - build one and see.
 

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