Strain Gauge Angle Homework question.

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The discussion revolves around a homework question regarding the application of strain gauge equations and the correct angles to use in stress transformation equations. Participants explore the implications of different angle choices on the resulting calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a set of equations for stress transformation and questions the correct angle to use, suggesting -30 degrees for all equations.
  • Another participant agrees with the angle choice of -30 degrees but indicates that the solution provided is incorrect and suggests not rounding numbers excessively.
  • A participant seeks clarification on the relationship between gammax'y' and gammaxy, questioning why one would be zero while the other is not.
  • Further advice is given regarding the need for an additional equation due to having three equations and four unknowns, along with hints about using principal axes and Poisson's ratio.

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There is some agreement on the use of -30 degrees for the angle in the equations, but disagreement exists regarding the correctness of the calculations and the interpretation of certain variables. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views on the correct approach.

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Participants note the need for additional equations and clarify the relationships between the variables involved, indicating potential limitations in the initial setup of the problem.

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This discussion may be useful for students or individuals working on problems related to strain gauges, stress transformation, and the application of Poisson's ratio in engineering contexts.

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[a]1. Homework Statement [/b]
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I thought it would be easier to post a picture since this way the drawing can be seen. I'm having a hard time deciding what angles to use with the relevant equations, see below.

Homework Equations


I know that:

Ex' = (Ex/2)*(1+cos(2*theta))+(Ey/2)*(1-cos(2*theta))+(gammaxy/2)*sin(2*theta))
Ey' = (Ex/2)*(1-cos(2*theta))+(Ey/2)*(1+cos(2*theta))-(gammaxy/2)*sin(2*theta))
Gammax'y'= -Ex*sin(2*theta)+Ey*Sin(-60)+gammaxy*cos(2*theta))

Then, back solve for Ex, Ey, and gamm. Then use: Sigmaxx = (E/(1-v2))*Exx+ (v*E*Eyy)/(1-v2).

From There, Sigmax = P/A

The Attempt at a Solution



I used -30 and 2theta = -60 for the angle in all three of the above equations. However, a friend used -30 for Ex, 60 for Ey, and 15 for gammaxy. What is the correct angle? I get 12.5KN as a final solution, while she gets 1.85KN.

I used a matrix:

Ex Ey Gammaxy = Ex' or Ey' or gammax'y' respectiveyl

.75 .25 -.433 = 270E-6
.25 .75 .433 = 10E-6
.866 -.866 .5 = 0

I find that: Ex = 250E-6 Ey=.75E-6 and gammaxy = -225E-6

I find that Sigma x = 50Mpa

and Finally P = 12.5 KN based on the above equations.

Did I make the correct assumption that I should use -30 as the angle for all three stress transformation equations? All help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
 
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xXOfNiRXx: You are correct; use theta = -30 deg for all of your relevant equations. Your relevant equations are correct. However, your solution and answer are currently wrong. Try again. Also, do not round your numbers so much. Hint 1: You seem to have said gammax'y' is zero, and gammaxy is nonzero; but shouldn't these two be the other way around?

(1) By the way, always leave a space between a numeric value and its following unit symbol. E.g., 1.85 kN, not 1.85kN. See the international standard for writing units[/color] (ISO 31-0[/color]). Or see any credible textbook.

(2) The unit symbol for kiloNewton is kN, not KN. The unit symbol for megapascal is MPa, not Mpa. Always use correct capitalization of unit symbols.

(3) Numbers less than 1 must always have a zero before the decimal point. E.g., 0.25, not .25. See the above links.
 
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Thank you for the feedback. I will correct my errors momentarily. Can you explain why gammax'y' is not zero and why gammaxy is zero?
 
xXOfNiRXx: In your relevant equations in post 1, you currently have three equations and four unknowns. You need one more equation. Hint 2: What is gammaxy for principal axes?

Alternately, you could use hint 3, instead of hint 2. Hint 3: What is an expression for eps_y, in terms of eps_x, using Poisson's ratio, when the y faces are unconstrained and not loaded, where eps means epsilon?
 
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Got it, thanks for your help. :)
 

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