Strength of magnetic field from a current filled wire at a point

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The discussion revolves around determining the strength of the magnetic field at specific points due to a current-filled wire, as illustrated in a provided diagram. The problem involves understanding the contributions of magnetic fields from multiple sources at different locations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the use of equations related to magnetic field strength and the need to consider both the magnitudes and directions of the fields at various points. There is an emphasis on the right-hand rule for determining field directions.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring the directions of the magnetic fields at specific points and questioning the application of the relevant equations. There is a recognition of opposing fields at certain points, prompting further inquiry into the net effect.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the application of the right-hand rule and the correctness of their chosen equations. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify these concepts without arriving at a definitive solution.

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that is the diagram that accompanies the question. The 3 parts of the question ask what is the magnetic field strength at points 1, 2 and 3.

I know that B=B_1+B_2+... for each point. In order to find the strength of the field at a point you must take into consideration all forces. I also know that u_0/4pi*(I s cross r/r^2) gives the strength of the magnetic field at a point, as does (u_0*I)/(2*pi*d)

I have attempted the problem several times, and keep using the second equation from above for the points on the outsides of the 2 wires (points 1 and 3). However, I keep getting the answer incorrect. I haven't started point number 2, but I think once I figure out the principle behind points 1 and 3 it will come easier.
 
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You need to consider the direction of the individual fields too, not just there magnitudes...if they point in the same direction at a given point, then the net field will be the sum of the two individual fields [itex]B_1+B_2[/itex], but if they are in opposite directions, you will end up with the difference of the two fields [itex]|B_1-B_2|[/itex]...use the right hand rule to determine the direction of the individual fields at each of the points in question.
 
using the right hand rule, should B for the top wire should point out of the page and the bottom one into the page? my right hand rule is a little rusty.

also, am i using the right equations?
 
Yes, the field at point 1 due to just the top wire is out of the page...how about the field at point 1 due to just the bottom wire?
 
it should point into the page
 
Good, so the fields oppose each other at that point...so what is the net field then?
 

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