Substitute a gas motor with electric motor

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of substituting a gas motor in a 12kw Generac home backup generator with an electric motor, specifically a 48-volt 4hp motor. Participants explore the implications of powering the generator from the grid using this electric motor.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes substituting a gas motor with a 48-volt electric motor to run a home backup generator, suggesting potential cost savings on power consumption.
  • Another participant questions the rationale behind the substitution, implying skepticism about the practicality of the idea.
  • A different participant estimates that the power consumption for the proposed electric motor would be around 375 kWh per month, leading to a cost of approximately $75.00 per month, which they view as a significant savings.
  • Another response suggests that the proposal may resemble a perpetual motion machine, noting that connecting a 3kW motor to a 12kW generator would likely result in lower efficiency and output than using mains electricity directly.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express skepticism about the feasibility of the proposed substitution, with some questioning the underlying assumptions and practicality of the approach. The discussion remains unresolved, with differing viewpoints on the viability of the idea.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the efficiency of the proposed electric motor and its compatibility with the generator's output. The discussion also touches on the concept of perpetual motion, which is not accepted in the context of this forum.

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I'm sure that this has been posted before but...
I want to substitute a gas motor in my 12kw Generac home backup generator with an electric motor 48-volt 4hp@4000 rpm series.. I would run this electric motor from the grid and power my home from this newly design generator.
 
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Why would you want to do that? Did you lose a bet?
 
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Correct me but the power consumption for a 48v motor that can propel a 12kw generator consume less power, I would thing 375 kwh/mo in turn costing me about 75.00 per/mo.
This would be a big savings
 
So, I'm going to guess this is an attempt at a perpetual motion machine, but leave the thread up until confirmed. Trouble is, if you connect a 3kW motor to a 12kW generator, it'll just output about 3kW, and at a lower efficiency (say, 3.5kW input) than if you just used the mains electricity directly.

But yes, we do get this question disappointingly often.

[Edit: suspicion confirmed. Sorry, but the question is answered and we don't discuss perpetual motion here, even for debunking. Thread locked.]
 
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