Sum of infinite Fourier series

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The discussion revolves around the sum of an infinite Fourier series, specifically focusing on the series involving odd integers and their squares. Participants explore the convergence of the series and its relation to known mathematical constants.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the correct interpretation of the series and question the indexing variable in the summation. There are attempts to clarify the original function represented by the series and its evaluation at specific points. Some participants suggest differentiating or integrating the function to explore convergence.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and guidance on evaluating the Fourier series. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the series and its convergence, with some participants expressing confusion about the results and seeking clarification.

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There are indications of potential typos in the original problem statement, and participants are navigating through assumptions about the series and its convergence properties. The context includes the need to evaluate the series at specific values of t and the implications of differentiating versus integrating the function.

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Homework Statement


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[tex]\sum_{r=0}^\infty\frac{1}{(2r+1)^2}=\frac{\pi^2}{8}[/tex]

Homework Equations


The equation of the function is

[tex]F(t)&=&\dfrac{\pi}{4}-\dfrac{2}{\pi}\left(\cos t+\dfrac{\cos3t}{3^{2}}+\dfrac{\cos5t}{5^{2}}+\cdots\right)-\left(\sin t-\dfrac{\sin2t}{2}+\dfrac{\sin3t}{3}-\cdots\right)[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


We are given the condition that t=0, so the cos terms are all 1 giving

[tex]\left(\cos t+\dfrac{\cos3t}{3^{2}}+\dfrac{\cos5t}{5^{2}}+\cdots\right)=\dfrac{1}{1^{2}}+\dfrac{1}{3^{2}}+\dfrac{1}{5^{2}}+\dfrac{1}{7^{2}}\cdots=\frac{\pi^2}{8}[/tex]
 
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bobred said:

Homework Statement


Show that

[tex]\sum_{i=0}^\infty\frac{1}{(2r+1)^2}=\frac{1}{8}[/tex]


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


Did you write the question incorrectly? The expression that you're summing doesn't have the indexing variable in it anywhere, so it diverges toward infinity:
[tex]\sum_{i=0}^\infty\frac{1}{(2r+1)^2}=\frac{1}{(2r+1)^2}\sum_{i=0}^\infty1=\frac{1}{(2r+1)^2}\infty = \infty[/tex]
 
I think it's just a typo.
 
Hi

The i should have been r.

I know from elsewhere that the sum is [tex]\frac{\pi^{2}}{8}[/tex], but I haven't really shown that, any hints?

Thanks

James
 
You have to know the original function which the series you have written down represents. Evaluate this function at t=0 and do a little algebra.

Mat
 
The original function is piecewise

[tex]f(t)=\begin{cases}<br /> -t & \left(-\pi<t\leq0\right)\\<br /> 0 & \left(0<t\leq\pi\right)\end{cases}[/tex]

With a period of [tex]2\pi[/tex]

James
 
You have the value of it's Fourier series at t=0, now calculate what f(0) is and equate the two values.
 
Hi

Of course, duh.

Thanks for your help

James
 
Hi

I am next asked to choose an appropriate value for t and find the value of convergence of the following,

[tex] \sum_{r=0}^\infty\frac{(-1)^r}{2r+1}=\frac{1}{1}-\frac{1}{3}+\frac{1}{5}-\frac{1}{7}[/tex]

I know this converges to [tex]\frac{\pi}{4}[/tex], but I am not sure where to start, the function is still the same as at the beginning of the thread

Any ideas where to start?

Thanks, James
 
  • #10
Integrate both the original function and its Fourier Series term by term. Then try to substitute some value of x into get that result.
 
  • #11
Don't integrate but differentiate.
 
  • #12
hunt_mat said:
Don't integrate but differentiate.

Whoops, my mistake.
 
  • #13
I differentiate the approximation and set [tex]t=-\frac{\pi}{2}[/tex] giving

[tex]\frac{\pi}{2}=\frac{2}{\pi}\sum_{r=0}^\infty\frac{1}{2r+1}\sin((2r+1)t)[/tex] as sin alternates sign we get

[tex]\frac{\pi}{2}=\frac{2}{\pi}\sum_{r=0}^\infty\frac{(-1)^r}{2r+1}[/tex]

To which I find

[tex]\sum_{r=0}^\infty\frac{(-1)^r}{2r+1}=\frac{\pi^2}{4}[/tex] and not [tex]\frac{\pi}{4}[/tex]

Any ideas where I'm going wrong?

Thanks
 
  • #14
[tex] \sum_{r = 0}^{\infty}{\frac{1}{(2 r + 1)^{2}}} = \sum_{r = 0}^{\infty}{\frac{1}{r^{2}}} - \sum_{r = 1}^{\infty}{\frac{1}{(2 r)^{2}}} = \left(1 - \frac{1}{4}\right) \, \sum_{r = 1}^{\infty}{\frac{1}{r^{2}}}[/tex]

The sum:

[tex] \zeta(2) \equiv \sum_{r = 1}^{\infty}{\frac{1}{r^{2}}}[/tex]

can be found by expanding the function [itex]f(x) = x^{2}[/itex] in Fourier series in the region [itex][-\pi, \pi][/itex] and taking its value for [itex]x = \pi[/itex].
 
  • #15
Hi

Sorry for my ignorrance, but I can't see how this helps with the question (see post#9)

Jamees
 
  • #16
bobred said:
I differentiate the approximation and set [tex]t=-\frac{\pi}{2}[/tex] giving

[tex]\frac{\pi}{2}=\frac{2}{\pi}\sum_{r=0}^\infty\frac{1}{2r+1}\sin((2r+1)t)[/tex] as sin alternates sign we get

[tex]\frac{\pi}{2}=\frac{2}{\pi}\sum_{r=0}^\infty\frac{(-1)^r}{2r+1}[/tex]

To which I find

[tex]\sum_{r=0}^\infty\frac{(-1)^r}{2r+1}=\frac{\pi^2}{4}[/tex] and not [tex]\frac{\pi}{4}[/tex]

Any ideas where I'm going wrong?

Thanks

The problem is that you differentiated f(t), so your series converges to f'(t), which is either equal to -1 or 0, but you set to it f'(t=-pi/2) = pi/2 and equated the pi/2 to the series instead of the actual value of f(t=-pi/2) = -1.
 
  • #17
Why not just set t=pi/2 in the original function?
 
  • #18
Hi

If I put [tex]t=\pi/2[/tex] the [tex]f(\pi/2)=0[/tex] and we get

[tex]\frac{\pi}{4}=\sum_{r=0}^\infty\frac{(-1)^r}{2r+1}[/tex]

Thanks everyone for your help.

James
 

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