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The discussion revolves around a polynomial defined as p(z) = ∑_{j=0}^{n} a_{n-j}z^j, with the goal of demonstrating that if z ≠ 0, then 1/z is a root of p. The context involves polynomial properties and the implications of the Fundamental Theorem of Algebra.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the formulation of the polynomial and its roots, particularly focusing on the relationship between p(z) and q(z). There are attempts to understand the implications of convergence and the conditions under which 1/z can be considered a root.

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The discussion is active, with participants questioning the necessity of demonstrating convergence and exploring the algebraic manipulation of the polynomial expressions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between p(1/z) and the original polynomial, but no consensus has been reached on the necessity of convergence in this context.

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There are ongoing discussions about the assumptions regarding the degree of the polynomial and the implications of z being non-zero. The role of convergence in polynomial behavior is also under scrutiny.

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Homework Statement



Let [tex]p(z) = \sum_{j=0}^{n} a_{n-j}z^j[/tex] be a polynomial of at least degree 1 thus
[tex]n \geq 1[/tex].
Show that if [tex]z\neq 0[/tex] then 1/z is a root of the polynomial p.

Homework Equations



Fundamental theorem of Algebra

The Attempt at a Solution



If a expand the polynomial above then

[tex]p(z) = \sum_{j=0}^{n} a_{n-j}z^j = a_n + a_{n-1}z + a_{n-2}z^2 + \cdots + a_0 z^n[/tex]

to test if 1/z is a root of p then this must be equal too

[tex]p(1/z) = \sum_{j=0}^{n} a_{n-j}z^j = a_n + a_{n-1}(1/z) + a_{n-2}(1/z)^2 + \cdots + a_0 (1/z)^n = 0[/tex]

Then as I see it its my task to show that the new sum

[tex]\sum_{n=0}^{\infty} a_n (\frac{1}{z})^n[/tex] converges to zero. Then by the ratio-test

[tex]\frac{a_{n+1}(\frac{1}{z})^{n+1}}{a_n (\frac{1}{z})^{n}} \rightarrow 0[/tex] as [tex]z \rightarrow \infty[/tex] therefore 1/z is a root of p.

Am I on the right track here?
 
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I think your problem should be formulated as follows. If

[tex]q(z) = \sum_{j=0}^{n}a_{j}z^{j}[/tex]

and we define p(z) in the way you have written down, then if q(z)=0 for z not equal to zero, then we have that p(1/z) = 0.
 
Count Iblis said:
I think your problem should be formulated as follows. If

[tex]q(z) = \sum_{j=0}^{n}a_{j}z^{j}[/tex]

and we define p(z) in the way you have written down, then if q(z)=0 for z not equal to zero, then we have that p(1/z) = 0.

Hi Count Iblis and thank you for your answer,

So what you are saying (please correct if I missunderstand) that if I show that if q(z) doesn't converge to zero then p(1/z) = 0 is a root of p?

thats easy cause if n is of degree at least 1 then then in my understanding
[tex]\lim_{n \rightarrow 1} q(z) \rightarrow 1[/tex]
 
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q(z) is assumed to be zero for some z. And then you can see that
p(1/z) must be zero as well. This, of course, for z itself not equal to zero, otherwise 1/z would not exist.

I don't see how convergence plays any role here, as we're dealing with polynomials...
 
Count Iblis said:
q(z) is assumed to be zero for some z. And then you can see that
p(1/z) must be zero as well. This, of course, for z itself not equal to zero, otherwise 1/z would not exist.

I don't see how convergence plays any role here, as we're dealing with polynomials...

I see that now :) But is this really that easily? No need to show anything to show that p(1/z) is a root of p?
 
You do need to show that p(1/z) is zero. You can take the expression for p(1/z) you wrote down:

a_n + a_{n-1} 1/z + ...+a_0 1/z^n

If you multiply this with z^n, you get...?
 
Count Iblis said:
You do need to show that p(1/z) is zero. You can take the expression for p(1/z) you wrote down:

a_n + a_{n-1} 1/z + ...+a_0 1/z^n

If you multiply this with z^n, you get...?

I get 1, but if I can't use convergense how else am I suppose to show that its zero?
 
What I mean is:

(a_n + a_{n-1} 1/z + ...+a_0 1/z^n) z^n =

a_n z^n+ a_{n-1} z^(n-1) + ...+a_0
 
I am such a dumb person Count...

If you multiply the above by z^n then you get the original p(z)...

where q(z) = z^n for a set not equal to zero then p(1/z) = 0 and thus 1/z is a root of p :) Right ?
 
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