Summing n-number of Terms to Find the Area of a Polygon

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around deriving the area of a polygon using line integrals, specifically focusing on the expression involving the vertices of the polygon listed in counter-clockwise order. The original poster presents a line integral and attempts to relate it to the area calculation, while also questioning the presence of a factor of (1/2) in the area formula.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between line integrals and area calculations, with some suggesting that the integral of (x dy - y dx) relates to the area of the polygon. Questions arise regarding the necessity of the (1/2) factor in the area formula, and whether it was omitted in the original statement.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the mathematical relationships involved, with participants providing insights into their reasoning and questioning the assumptions made in the problem statement. Some guidance has been offered regarding the integral's interpretation, but no consensus has been reached on the necessity of the (1/2) factor.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential for typographical errors in the source material and discuss the implications of these errors on their understanding of the problem. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the formatting of mathematical expressions in LaTeX.

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Homework Statement


Let C be the line segment connecting the points (x1,y1) and (x2,y2). More over let the line integral over C of (x dy - y dx) = x1y2 - x2y1.

Suppose the vertices of a polygon, listed in counter-clockwise order, are (x1y1), (x2y2), ... , (xnyn). Show that the area of the polygon is

(1/2) * ((x1y2 - x2y1) + (x2y3 - x3y2) + ... + (xny1 - x1yn))

Homework Equations



I don't know a relevant equation, but I suspect there probably is one.

The Attempt at a Solution



So, basically, I just want to say something like, let C* be the set of all line segments that connect, with positive orientation, (x1y1), (x2y2), ... , (xnyn). Then using the fact that the line integral over C of (x dy - y dx) = x1y2 - x2y1, and by repeatedly applying this fact, I would have something like:

[itex]\sum[/itex] * = 1 n of ([itex]\int[/itex]C* (x dy - y dx)). I think this gives the desired result except for the 1/2, which still eludes me.

Also, how do you format these sigmas? It's supposed to read "Sigma from *=1 to n"
 
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[tex]\sum_{i = 1}^n \int_{C^*} (x~dy - y~dx)[/tex]

The LaTeX looks like this (with the spaces in the tex tags removed):
[ tex]\sum_{i = 1}^n \int_C^* (x~dy - y~dx)[ /tex]
 
Excellent! That's absolutely helpful. Thank you.

I'm thinking about this integral here:

Suppose I had integrated line integral over C of (x dy - y dx) to prove that x1y2 - x2y1. Then the parameterization of the curve is r(t) = <x1 + (x2 - x1)*t, y1 + (y2 - y1)*t>. I can calculate a line integral:

C x dy - y dx = ∫(0≤t≤1) (x1 + (x2 - x1)*t)*(y2 - y1) - (y1 + (y2 - y1)*t)*(x2 - x1) dt.

Calculating gives,

(x1 + (1/2)(x2 - x1))*(y2 - y1) - (y1 + (1/2)(y2 - y1))*(x2 - x1).

This introduces at least some kind of (1/2) into my calculation. Not sure if that helps though, since the 1/2 just cancels.
 
The area is the integral of (1/2)(xdy-ydx). I think you left the (1/2) out from the very beginning.
 
TranscendArcu said:
Could you please show the calculations that lead you to that conclusion? Certainly there is no 1/2 preceding the "xdy-ydx" in the book, so if there is a typo, it'd be good to know about.

If you'd like to see the problem, it can be found on google books: http://books.google.com/books?id=Vo...he line segment connecting the point"&f=false

No, no typo really. It just says the integral along a line segment is x1*y2-y1*x2 and asks you to prove it. It doesn't say that that is the area. I think you were supposed to figure out that you should put the (1/2) in. Did they tell you someplace else in the book that dA=(1/2)(xdy-ydx)?
 
Indeed they did! Guess I should probably start reading the book, huh?
 
BTW the easiest proof I know is that the cross product of the three dimensional vectors (x,y,0) and (x+dx,y+dy,0) gives you the area of the parallelogram generated by (x,y,0) and (x+dx,y+dy,0) and the origin. That's xdy-ydx. The area of the triangle from the origin is (1/2) of that. That's dA. I'm sure there is a way to do it without introducing the third dimension, but that's the way I think about it.
 
TranscendArcu said:
Indeed they did! Guess I should probably start reading the book, huh?

You took the words out my mouth. :)
 

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