Summing up an Arithmetic Progression via Integration?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between the integration of the general term of an arithmetic progression (A.P.) and the sum of the terms in that progression. Participants explore whether integrating the general term function of an A.P. can yield its sum, examining the mathematical implications and limitations of such an approach.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why integrating the general term of an A.P. does not yield its sum, presenting a specific example with calculations.
  • Another participant asserts that integration calculates area rather than summing integers, suggesting that the integral and sum are fundamentally different concepts.
  • A participant introduces an inequality relating sums and integrals, indicating that while integration can provide bounds, it does not equate to the sum in general cases.
  • There is a clarification regarding a potential sign error in the integration process, with a participant pointing out a discrepancy in the final expression after integration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the relationship between integration and summation in this context, with multiple competing views on the validity of using integration to find the sum of an A.P.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on the specific form of the function being integrated and the conditions under which the inequalities hold. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical steps or assumptions involved in the integration process.

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Why doesn't the integration of the general term of an A.P. give its sum? Integration sums up finctions, so if I integrate the general term function of an A.P., I should get its sum.
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2,4,6,8,...
T=2+(n-1)2=2n
[itex]\int T dn[/itex]=n^2 ..(1)

Sum=S=(n/2)(4+(n-1)2)=(n/2)(2+2n)=n+(n^2) ..(2)

Why aren't these two equal?
 
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I see no reason at all why the integral should equal the sum. The integral doesn't sum integers, it calculates area.

That said, we do have the following inequality (this does not hold in general!):

[tex]\sum_{k=0}^{n-1}{f(k)}\leq \int_0^n{f(x)dx}\leq\sum_{k=1}^n{f(k)}[/tex]

This inequality is the best you can do, I fear...
 
micromass said:
I see no reason at all why the integral should equal the sum. The integral doesn't sum integers, it calculates area.

That said, we do have the following inequality (this does not hold in general!):

[tex]\sum_{k=0}^{n-1}{f(k)}\leq \int_0^n{f(x)dx}\leq\sum_{k=1}^n{f(k)}[/tex]

This inequality is the best you can do, I fear...

If you are dealing with a polynomial expression, you can use what are called Bernoulli polynomials.

If the expression is not a simple one (as in some finite polynomial expression), then the inequality is a good bet, unless there are some tighter constraints for the specific expression.
 
Clarification:
Haven't you dropped a sign?
On the left hand integral, after integrating, I see
-ln|1 - x|

On the next or final line, the leading negative disappears.
 

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