Sunrise and Sunset - Is there a difference?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores whether there are physical reasons for any differences in appearance between sunrises and sunsets. Participants consider factors such as atmospheric conditions, temperature, and local environmental influences, including pollution and dust levels.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the cooler temperatures during sunrise compared to sunset may contribute to differences in appearance.
  • Another participant notes that geographical location can influence the colors observed during sunrises and sunsets, citing personal observations from California.
  • A different participant emphasizes the role of atmospheric dust and particulate matter, indicating that increased human activity leads to more particles in the air at sunset than at sunrise.
  • It is mentioned that blue light is scattered more than red light, which may affect the colors seen during these times.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the factors influencing the appearance of sunrises and sunsets, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge various assumptions, such as the influence of local environmental conditions and the effects of atmospheric temperature and composition, but do not resolve these complexities.

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Short version:
Is there any physical reason why a sunset should look different than a sunrise? The only differences between the two situations that I can think of is that the atmosphere should be cooler during a sunrise than a sunset. There's also the accumulated smog consideration if you're near a city, i.e. there will be very little smog at sunrise vs quite a bit at sunset.

Long version:
I was just looking at a nice coastline picture and trying to figure out whether it was a sunset on an easterly facing coast or sunrise on a westernly facing coast when it occurred to me that the two situations should be roughly symmetric and so you shouldn't be able to tell the difference. I commented on this to a friend of mine, intending to get a chuckle out of sharing the experience, when he said that you can tell the difference by the colors in the sky.

Now my friend isn't a physicist (or a meteorologist, for that matter), but he does do a lot of backpacking and has seen his fair share of sunrises and sunsets so there's a good chance he knows what he's talking about. I haven't been able to convince myself that there would be any real difference between the two though.
 
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Yes, I think it is the difference in temperature.
 
I think it can also depend on where you are located on earth. Here in California we see mostly "blue" sun rises and "red" sunsets, but at the same time we can see the sun go directly below the ocean when it sets but not when it rises. If I compare our sunsets here in California to this picture of a sunrise in Japan (picture: http://www.jarl.or.jp/Japanese/2_Joho/2-6_stations/8j1rl/first-sunrise.jpg, they look pretty similar (to me at least).
 
Temperature of the atmosphere/ground is certainly part of it, but also the amount of dust in the air. With more human activity in a region, there is more particulate matter near the ground at sunset than at sunrise.

Blue light is scattered much more than red light.
 

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