Calculating Current Using Superposition Theorem

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The discussion revolves around calculating the current in a specific branch of a circuit using the superposition theorem. Participants explore the application of the theorem, the calculation of total resistance, and the use of the current divider formula. The focus is on resolving uncertainties in circuit analysis, particularly regarding series and parallel resistor combinations.

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  • Technical explanation
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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant outlines their approach using the superposition theorem, calculating total resistance and resulting currents for each voltage source.
  • Another participant challenges the correctness of the current divider application and the calculation of total resistance for one of the voltage sources, suggesting that a resistor is in series rather than parallel.
  • A subsequent reply indicates an attempt to recalculate based on the feedback received, but questions remain about the accuracy of the new resistance calculations.
  • Further attempts to clarify the calculations lead to additional questions about series and parallel relationships, with requests for tutorials on the topic.
  • Another participant points out missing parentheses in the calculations of total resistance, suggesting a need for careful notation in circuit analysis.
  • One participant expresses improvement in understanding the concepts but acknowledges that series and parallel relationships are still a weak area.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correctness of the calculations, and multiple competing views regarding the application of the superposition theorem and the configuration of resistors remain unresolved.

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Limitations include potential misunderstandings in the application of the current divider formula and the configuration of resistors as series or parallel, which affect the calculations of total resistance.

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1. Using the superposition theorem, calculate the the current in the right-most branch in the following circuit.
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/1190/superpositionmp1.png




Attempt at solution. I basically followed the theorem, Both voltage sources in the circuit have the same polarity so the 2 resulting currents calculated will have to be added together. The problem I come to most often with these questions is whether resistors are in parallel or series combinations. This is how far I got, the answer is said to be 845microA

After firstly making VS2 a short, I calculated the total resistance

Rt = R1+R2//R3+R4//R5 = 3200//2000//2200 which I calculated to being 790ohms.( // denotes parallel relationship)

It(VS1) = VS1/Rt = 2/790 = 2.53mA

I then applied the Current divider formula to work my way to finding Ir5.

Ir5(VS1) = 2000/4200 x 1.557mA = 741microA

Now when VS1 is a short, I got the total resistance from VS2 to be

Rt = R4//R5//R3+R2//R1 = 1000//2200//3200//1000 = 361.4ohms

It(VS2) = 3/361.2 = 8.3mA

Ir5(VS2) = 1000/3200 x 8.3mA = 2.59mA

Ir5 = Ir5(VS1)+Ir5(VS2) = 2.59mA + 714microA = 3.304mA

I think I have gone wrong mainly in my execution of the Current divider method, I also have doubts over my calculations of Rt in both circumstances. If anyone could provide me with any help I would be very grateful.

 
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Not only your current divider is wrong, but your calculation of Rt for Vs2 is also incorrect. R4 is in series with the rest of the circuit and not in parallel.
 
Ok thanks, I will give it another shot with that info.
 
Ok well I had another go, here's what I got

Make VS2 a short

Rt = R1+R2//R3+R4//R5 = 3200//2000//2200 = 790ohms (I assume this is correct).

It(vs1) = 2/790 = 2.531mA

Therefore IR5 = 790/2200 x 2.531mA = 908microA(is this correct? as I5 = Rt/R5 * It(vs1)).

Make VS1 a short.

Rt = R4+R5//R3+R2//R1 = 615ohms

It(VS2) = Vs2/Rt = 3/615 = 4.87mA
(is the value for Rt while VS1 is made a short correct? Could someone direct me to any tutorials on series parallel relationships? I am going to have a look through the chapter again tomorrow but the more examples I can find the better really.)

IR5 = Rt/R5 x It(vs2) = 615/2200 x 4.87mA = 1.361mA

Ir5(total) = Ir5(VS1)+Ir5(VS2) as they are the same polarity and will be flowing in the same direction.

1.361mA+908microA = 2.269mA(around 5 times larger than the answer given :S)

is this any closer to the correct answer? If someone could tell me where and how I went wrong then Id be very grateful.
 
shifty101uk said:
Ok well I had another go, here's what I got

Make VS2 a short

Rt = R1+R2//R3+R4//R5 = 3200//2000//2200 = 790ohms (I assume this is correct).

It(vs1) = 2/790 = 2.531mA

Therefore IR5 = 790/2200 x 2.531mA = 908microA(is this correct? as I5 = Rt/R5 * It(vs1)).

Make VS1 a short.

Rt = R4+R5//R3+R2//R1 = 615ohms

It(VS2) = Vs2/Rt = 3/615 = 4.87mA
(is the value for Rt while VS1 is made a short correct? Could someone direct me to any tutorials on series parallel relationships? I am going to have a look through the chapter again tomorrow but the more examples I can find the better really.)

IR5 = Rt/R5 x It(vs2) = 615/2200 x 4.87mA = 1.361mA

Ir5(total) = Ir5(VS1)+Ir5(VS2) as they are the same polarity and will be flowing in the same direction.

1.361mA+908microA = 2.269mA(around 5 times larger than the answer given :S)

is this any closer to the correct answer? If someone could tell me where and how I went wrong then Id be very grateful.

You forgot some parentheses in your calculatios of Rt.

With Vs2 shorted you have:
Rt = R1+R2||(R3+R4||R5)

and with Vs1 shorted
Rt = R4+R5||(R3+R1||R2)
 
Ok well I am starting to get the hang of all this now, thanks a lot for your help. Ill go back and review series parallel relationships as they seem to be my biggest weak spot at the moment.
 

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