Surface area of a part of z=xy in a cylinder?

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The discussion focuses on finding the surface area of the part of the surface defined by z=xy that lies within the cylinder x^2+y^2=1. The surface area formula involves a double integral of the square root of the sum of the squares of the partial derivatives plus one. The user graphed the function but struggled with determining the correct integration bounds. A suggestion to convert to polar coordinates was made, which ultimately helped the user solve the problem. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the geometric constraints imposed by the cylinder in calculating the surface area.
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Homework Statement


What is the surface area of the part of z=xy that lies in the cylinder given by x^2+y^2=1?


Homework Equations


SA=(double integral) sqrt(Fx^2+Fy^2+1)dA


The Attempt at a Solution


I've graphed it but I don't know what to integrate or the bounds.. :/ any help? thank you!
 
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You can write z= xy as the vector equation \vec{r}(x,y)= x\vec{i}+ y\vec{j}+z\vec{k}= x\vec{i}+ y\vec{j}+ xy\vec{k}. The two derivative vectors \vec{r}_x= \vec{i}+ y\vec{k} and \vec{r}_y= \vec{j}+ x\vec{k} are in the tangent plane at each point. Their cross product, \vec{r}_x\times\vec{r}_y= -y\vec{i}- x\vec{j}+\vec{k}, the "fundamental vector product" for the surface, is perpendicular to the surface and its length gives the "differential of surface area"- dS= \sqrt{y^2+ x^2+ 1}dydx.

Because the problem asks for the surface area of the part inside the cylinder x^2+ y<br /> ^2= 1, that circle is the boundary. You might want to put it in polar coordinates.
 
Awesome I finally got it! Thanks so much for your help! :)
 
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