Taking an honors physics class at a local university while in high school.

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The discussion revolves around the decision of a high school senior considering whether to take an honors calculus-based physics class at a local university or an AP Physics class at their high school. The conversation touches on the differences in teaching styles, the level of difficulty, and the student's preparedness based on previous coursework in physics and calculus.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that taking the honors physics class at the university would be beneficial for the student, given their interest in physics and prior success in calculus.
  • Others caution that the university class will be more challenging than the high school class, which may require a deeper understanding of concepts rather than just methods.
  • A participant mentions that honors physics may expect knowledge of AP Physics and advanced calculus topics, which could pose a challenge for those not adequately prepared.
  • One participant advises the student to communicate with the professor to assess their readiness and gather advice on preparation.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of understanding the application of math in physics, indicating it may be a significant hurdle for some students.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that taking the honors physics class could be worthwhile, but there is no consensus on the student's preparedness or the potential challenges they may face. Some express confidence in the student's abilities, while others highlight the risks involved.

Contextual Notes

There are varying assumptions about the student's prior knowledge and the expectations of the honors physics course, as well as differing opinions on the importance of exploring other interests during high school.

Who May Find This Useful

High school students considering advanced coursework in physics, educators advising students on course selection, and parents interested in their children's academic paths in STEM fields.

Should I take the honors introductory physics class?

  • Take it!

    Votes: 8 80.0%
  • Don't do it!

    Votes: 2 20.0%

  • Total voters
    10
  • Poll closed .
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So I am participating in a program that allows me to take classes at a local university and the counselor suggested that because I plan to go into physics when I go off to college (I will be a high school senior next year) it would be a good idea to take the honors introductory course that is offered for physics. The teacher who teaches this class is considered to be the best physics professor at the university and receives great ratings on the rate my professor website that sometimes even mention his conversion of students into physics majors (although most of the raters said gave him a 1 for easiness in the class I'm considering).

If I decided not to take the class at the university I could take AP Physics at my high school but it is taught by a teacher who is known for really dumbing down the material and he also comes from a mechanical engineering background. I had him for honors physics last year and it was insanely easy. We mostly just had to plug numbers into equations for tests and homework and throughout the classes there wasn't much thinking involved.

So my question is whether it would be wise for a high school senior who had a dumbed down algebra based physics class to take an honors calculus based physics class at a local university. I took Calculus AB last year and received a 4 on the AP test and I will be taking Calculus II at the university next year. I have a great interest in physics and although it doesn't apply that much I do read a lot of popular literature on the subject.

Has anyone here had any experiences with honors introductory physics classes in college?
 
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High school is your chance to explore a range of interests, like sports, hobbies, movie nights, video games, hanging out doing nothing, pizza, I could go on.

You'll have plenty of time to work day and night when you get to college.
 
I would say take it. If you're interested in physics I think it will be worth it and you seem like someone who would rather have a good understand of concepts instead of just the methods (sounds like your high school class).
 
Yes, take the physics class at the university. It will be harder than your high school class, but that's a good thing. You will be challenged during the class and you will discover whether you truly like physics.
 
Phyzwizz said:
If I decided not to take the class at the university I could take AP Physics at my high school but it is taught by a teacher who is known for really dumbing down the material and he also comes from a mechanical engineering background. I had him for honors physics last year and it was insanely easy. We mostly just had to plug numbers into equations for tests and homework and throughout the classes there wasn't much thinking involved.

So my question is whether it would be wise for a high school senior who had a dumbed down algebra based physics class to take an honors calculus based physics class at a local university. I took Calculus AB last year and received a 4 on the AP test and I will be taking Calculus II at the university next year. I have a great interest in physics and although it doesn't apply that much I do read a lot of popular literature on the subject.
if I were you I would take the class
 
Hi Phyzwizz,

I took honors physics last semester and really enjoyed it. However, it was not uncommon to see mathematics usually taught in one's third semester of calculus (triple integrals, conversion to polar/parametric, etc.). Some of the students in the class were just learning how to take the derivative of elementary functions since calculus 1 was the only prerequisite.

You should get a hold of the professor and tell them you situation. They will be able to give you some advice on what you need to do to be prepared. If you have not taken calculus yet, honors physics will be a significant amount of work for you, as you will need to learn the math and the physics at the same time.
 
Honors physics at my university pretty much expected you to know all of AP Physics already. There were also "proofs" (as in physics proofs, not math proofs) involving abstract particles/forces/etc. They're pretty basic, but if you've never done anything other than plugging numbers into equations, it'll be a bit of a problem.

Nonetheless it's a great course if you're prepared for it. So study AP Physics over the rest of the summer and take the course.
 
Thanks for all the helpful advice. I talked to the professor and he said the most challenging part is just the application of math to the physics. I've decided to take the class I took out James Stewart's Calculus 5e and I'm starting to work my way through Calc 2 topics hopefully this book will be sufficient.
 

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