Tangent Plane to two parametric curves which intersect

[Vadermort]

Homework Statement

Suppose you need to know an equation of the tangent plane to a surface S at the point P(2,1,3). You don't know the equation for S but you know that the curves

r₁(t)=<2+3t,1-t^2,3-4t+t^2>

r₂(u)=<1+u^2,2u^3-1,2u+1>

both lie on S. Find an equation of the tangent plane at P.

Homework Equations

z-z₀=a(x-x₀)+b(y-y₀) The equation for a plane where a=f_x(x₀,y₀) and b=f_y(x₀,y₀)

The Attempt at a Solution

I know that r₁ and r₂ intercept at P when u=1 and t=0, so I think x₀=2, y₀=1, and z₀=3 but I'm not sure how to find the partial derivatives with respect to x and y of the plane. I tried taking dz/dt divided by dy/dt and comparing it with dz/du divided by dy/du but I got different answers for the two intercepting curves so I don't know what to do. Do I need to find an orthogonal vector- if so, how do I do that :P

 

[SammyS]

Homework Statement

Suppose you need to know an equation of the tangent plane to a surface S at the point P(2,1,3). You don't know the equation for S but you know that the curves

r₁(t)=<2+3t,1-t^2,3-4t+t^2>

r₂(u)=<1+u^2,2u^3-1,2u+1>

both lie on S. Find an equation of the tangent plane at P.

Homework Equations

z-z₀=a(x-x₀)+b(y-y₀) The equation for a plane where a=f_x(x₀,y₀) and b=f_y(x₀,y₀)

What you have just given looks to me like the procedure for finding the plane which is tangent to the surface given by z = f(x,y) at the point (x₀, y₀, z₀).

That's not what you have in this problem.

The Attempt at a Solution

I know that r₁ and r₂ intercept at P when u=1 and t=0, so I think x₀=2, y₀=1, and z₀=3 but I'm not sure how to find the partial derivatives with respect to x and y of the plane. I tried taking dz/dy divided by dy/dt but I got different answers for the two intercepting curves so I don't know what to do.

What you need for this problem is to take the derivatives of r₁ and r₂: $\displaystyle \vec{v}_1(t)=\frac{d}{dt}\vec{r}_1(t)\,,\text{ and }\vec{v}_2(u)=\frac{d}{du}\vec{r}_2(u)\,,$ evaluated at t = 0 and u = 1 respectively.

The plane may be described parametrically by, $<x,\,y,\,z>=<x_0,\,y_0,\,z_0> +\ \vec{v}_1(t_0)t+\vec{v}_2(u_0)u\ .$

 

[Vadermort]

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