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The discussion focuses on finding the tangent line to the hyperbola defined by x^2 - y^2 = 1 at points given by hyperbolic functions. The tangent's intersection points with the x-axis and y-axis are derived to be sech(u) and -csch(u), respectively. A participant points out an inconsistency in the calculation of the y-intercept, b, suggesting it should depend on u rather than being a fixed value of 4. The conversation emphasizes the importance of using hyperbolic identities to simplify calculations. The final resolution involves correctly determining the value of b using the identity cosh^2(u) - sinh^2(u) = 1.
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Homework Statement


Show that the tangent to ##x^2-y^2=1## at points ##x_1=\cosh (u)## and ##y_1=\sinh(u)## cuts the x-axis at ##{\rm sech(u)}## and the y-axis at ##{\rm -csch(u)}##.

Homework Equations


Hyperbolic sine: ##\sinh (u)=\frac{1}{2}(e^u-e^{-u})##
Hyperbolic cosine: ##\cosh (u)=\frac{1}{2}(e^u+e^{-u})##

The Attempt at a Solution


$$2x-2yy'=0~\rightarrow~\frac{x}{y}=y'=\frac{\cosh (u)}{\sinh (u)}=\frac{e^u+e^{-u}}{e^u-e^{-u}}$$
The equation of the tangent is ##y=y'x+b## and it's intersection with the y-axis is at ##y=\sinh (u)##:
$$y=y'x+b~~\rightarrow~~\sinh (u)=\frac{e^u+e^{-u}}{e^u-e^{-u}}(e^u+e^{-u})+b~~\rightarrow~~b=4$$
But b can't be 4 because it is a general expression, it should depend on u
 
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Karol said:
$$y=y'x+b~~\rightarrow~~\sinh (u)=\frac{e^u+e^{-u}}{e^u-e^{-u}}(e^u+e^{-u})+b~~\rightarrow~~b=4$$
But b can't be 4 because it is a general expression, it should depend on u

How are you getting 4 out of that? There is no reason to go back and forth between the hyperbolic trig functions and exponentials. In terms of the hyperbolic trig functions, you have:

y = \frac{cosh(u)}{sinh(u)} x + b

So plugging in y=sinh(u), x = cosh(u) gives:

sinh(u) = \frac{cosh(u)}{sinh(u)} cosh(u) + b

So what do you get for b? (Remember the identity: cosh^2(u) - sinh^2(u) = 1)
 
Thank you stevendaryl
 
Question: A clock's minute hand has length 4 and its hour hand has length 3. What is the distance between the tips at the moment when it is increasing most rapidly?(Putnam Exam Question) Answer: Making assumption that both the hands moves at constant angular velocities, the answer is ## \sqrt{7} .## But don't you think this assumption is somewhat doubtful and wrong?

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