Tangent vector fields and covariant derivatives of the 3-sphere

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The discussion revolves around the properties and computations related to the metric and Lie brackets on a 3-sphere, particularly focusing on the inner product of vector fields and the implications for covariant derivatives.

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  • The original poster attempts to clarify the nature of the metric and its representation, questioning whether it is a function or a matrix. They also inquire about the independence of Lie brackets from the metric and the relationship between covariant derivatives and Lie brackets.

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Some participants provide insights into the correct representation of the metric and the computation of Lie brackets, noting that the inner product should yield a scalar value. There is ongoing exploration of how these concepts interrelate, particularly regarding the computation of covariant derivatives.

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Participants are navigating complex definitions and relationships in differential geometry, with some expressing confusion over the assumptions made about the metric and its application in calculations. The discussion reflects a mix of foundational understanding and specific computational challenges.

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Homework Statement
compute the metrics, Lie brackets, and covariant derivatives in the Levi - Civita connection of the 3-sphere
Relevant Equations
{x^2+y^2+u^2+v^2=1}
This week, I've been assigned a problem about a 3-sphere. I am confused how to approach this problem and any comments would be greatly appreciated.
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(a) - would I be correct to assume the metric G is simply the dot product of two vector fields with dx^2 dy^2 du^2 and dv^2 next to their corresponding terms?

for example:

g(A,A) = (ydx)^2 + (xdy)^2 + (vdu)^2 + (udv)^2

g(A,B) = (uv)dx^2 + (xdy)^2 + vy(du)^2 + uv(dv^2)

why are the metric arranged in a 3x3 pattern?(b) computing the lie brackets with the chain rule

[A,B] = operate on B with A - operate on A with B
[B,C] = operate on C with B - operate on B with C
[A,C] = operate on C with A - operate on A with C

are these computations entirely independent of the metric g?

(c) does this part involve information from the Lie brackets?thank you in advance for ideas.
 
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a) No. The inner product of two vectors should be a number at each point (shouldn't have terms like ##dx^2##). The vector fields ##X,Y,U,V## are orthonormal, so to compute ##g(A,B),## you should just expand and use linearity. If ##e_1,\ldots,e_n## is a basis for a tangent space of a Riemannian manifold, you can define the matrix ##g_{ij}:=g(e_i,e_j)##. It's standard to represent bilinear forms by matrices like this.

b) Yes, Lie brackets of vector fields are independent of any metric.

c) I think the point is just that knowing the Lie brackets let's you save time by using the fact ##\nabla_XY-\nabla_YX=[X,Y],## so three of the covariant derivatives come "for free" once you've done the others.
 
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a) No. The inner product of two vectors should be a number at each point (shouldn't have terms like dx2). The vector fields X,Y,U,V are orthonormal, so to compute g(A,B), you should just expand and use linearity. If e1,…,en is a basis for a tangent space of a Riemannian manifold, you can define the matrix gij:=g(ei,ej). It's standard to represent bilinear forms by matrices like this.

b) Yes, Lie brackets of vector fields are independent of any metric.

c) I think the point is just that knowing the Lie brackets let's you save time by using the fact ∇XY−∇YX=[X,Y], so three of the covariant derivatives come "for free" once you've done the others.
Thank you for the reply. I really appreciate it.

So we can relate the inner product of two vectors A and B to the metric g(A,B)?

Is the metric a function like this?

g(A, B)
= uy - xy + y^2 - vy - ux + x^2 - yx + vx + uv - vx + yv - v^2 - u^2 + ux -uy +uv
= x^2 +y^2 -u^2 -v^2 -2xy +2uv

or a matrix like this?

g(A, B) =

uy -yx y^2 -yv
-ux x^2 -xy vx
uv -vx vy -v^2
-u^2 ux -uy uvTo compute the covarient derivatives in the Levi-civita connection, should we use the metric to compute the christoffel symbols?

If the derivatives are covarient, will the Lie brackets be 0?

thank you,
 
For now, I'm reading up on coursework and trying to understand the concepts.. I'll post an update when I solved the problem or gotten closer.
 
We are posting the solution below, please type something if you see an error, thanks.

(3a)

The metric g in the basis A, B, C is a symmetric 3 x 3 matrix, with entries the inner (dot) products of the basis vectors.

y^2 + x^2 + v^2 + u^2_______ uy + x^2 + vy + uv_______ vy + x^2 + uv + uy

uy + x^2 + vy + uv_______ u^2 + x^2 + uy + vy_______ uv + x^2 + uy + vy

vy + x^2 + uv + uy_______ uv + x^2 + uy + vy_______v^2 + x^2 + u^2 + y^2

(b)

Each lie bracket [A, B] is computed by taking the derivative in the direction A of B, derivative in the direction B of A, and taking the difference. One vector operates on the other using the chain rule, with 12/16 terms in each derivative coming out as 0.

[A, B] = 2v+2u-2y-2x
[B, C] = 2y-2x-2u+2v
[A, C] = 2x+2y+2u-2v

(c)

The covariant derivatives in the Levi-Civita connection are the ordinary derivatives in the flat Euclidian connection. This is because our basis vector fields A, B, C are linear combinations of the Euclidian Basis vectors X, Y, U, V. This means we computed most the derivatives while calculating the lie brackets. Except the derivative A in the direction of A, B in the direction B, and C in the direction C. After computing these, we obtain the nine ordinary derivatives of g.

-x-y-u-v_______ v-y-x+u_______ -u-y+v+x

-v-u+y+x_______ -x-u-v-y _______ y-u-x+v

u-v-x+y _______ -y-v+u+x _______ -x-v-y-u
 
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You should not omit the basis vectors and express the results in terms of ##A,B,C##. What I mean is: ##[A,B]=2(vX+uY-yU-xV)=2C.##
 
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fresh_42 said:
You should not omit the basis vectors and express the results in terms of A,B,C. What I mean is: [A,B]=2(vX+uY−yU−xV)=2C.

Much thanks!

The answer is then,

(b)

[A, B] = 2(vX - uY - yU - xV) = 2C
[B, C] = 2(yX - xY + vU -uV) = 2A
[A, C] = 2(uX - vY - xU + yV) = 2B(c)

-xX-yY-uU-vV_______ vX+uY-yU-xV_______ -uX+vY+xU-yV

-vX-uY+yU+xV_______ -xX-yY-uU-vV _______ yX-xY+vU-uV

uX-vY-xU+yV _______ -yX+xY-vU+uV _______ -xX-yY-vV-uUor

-xX-yY-uU-vV_______ C_______________________-B
-C____________________-xX-yY-uU-vV___________A
B_____________________-A_______________________-xX-yY-uU-vV
 
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