Taylor Expand Lagrangian to Second Order....

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The discussion focuses on the application of Taylor expansion in the context of Lagrangian mechanics, specifically expanding terms up to second order. The user initially attempted to simplify the Lagrangian by substituting sine and cosine terms but encountered discrepancies with the provided solution, particularly regarding the treatment of higher-order terms. The confusion arose from misinterpreting the significance of certain terms, such as the 4a2x2 term and its relation to the sine function, which led to an incorrect simplification. Ultimately, the user recognized a fundamental misunderstanding of Taylor expansions and acknowledged the need to revisit foundational concepts.

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Problem outline: http://tinypic.com/r/34jeihj/9
Solution: http://tinypic.com/r/algpqh/9

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Given that x and x2 in the Lagrangian don't need expanding, I simply took the Sin and Cos parts up to their x2 terms and replaced them accordingly in the Lagrangian. However the given solution (below) seems to have done things rather differently. In particular I notice the 4a2x2 term and the Sin term have both become zero.

Can anyone explain why this is? Some obvious algebra error on my part, or a fundamental aspect of Taylor expansions that I haven't properly grasped? Many thanks.

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Well, the term proportional to x \dot{x} \dot{\theta} sin(\theta) is 4th order (treating x and \theta as the same order).
 
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stevendaryl said:
Well, the term proportional to x \dot{x} \dot{\theta} sin(\theta) is 4th order (treating x and \theta as the same order).

Ahhh, so yes it was a fundamental error in understanding on my part.

Back to basics for me...

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