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So where is the
Source: http://www.math.ubc.ca/~feldman/m226/taylor2d.pdf
The discussion revolves around the application of the chain rule in the context of Taylor expansions and derivatives of multivariable functions. Participants explore the relationship between variables in a function and how to properly apply differentiation techniques, particularly in cases where variables are not explicitly defined as functions of time.
Participants express disagreement regarding the formula presented in the original post, with some supporting parts of it while others challenge its validity. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the correctness of the claims made about the chain rule and the dimensional analysis involved.
There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the variables and their relationships, particularly in the context of dimensional analysis and the definitions of the derivatives involved.
Why is it not a function of t? I am still new to this so do you have something i can read on about this?blue_leaf77 said:##F(t) = f(x(t),y(t))##, so despite written to be a function of ##t##, the functional form of ##F(t)## is not written explicitly as a function of ##t##.
It's not an explicit function of ##t##. When you want to do chain rule, you have to pay attention on which variables are written explicitly, despite whether or not these variables are functions of yet another variable. For example take ##F(t) = xy^2## where ##x = \sqrt{t}## and ##y=t-2##. If you want to calculate ##dF/dt##, you can either first express ##x## and ##y## in terms of ##t## and then differentiate w.r.t. ##t## or let ##F## be expressed in ##x## and ##y## then use the chain ruleTimeRip496 said:Why is it not a function of t?
I guess this problem should belong to multivariate calculus.TimeRip496 said:do you have something i can read on about this?
Thanks a lot! I now understand.blue_leaf77 said:It's not an explicit function of ##t##. When you want to do chain rule, you have to pay attention on which variables are written explicitly, despite whether or not these variables are functions of yet another variable. For example take ##F(t) = xy^2## where ##x = \sqrt{t}## and ##y=t-2##. If you want to calculate ##dF/dt##, you can either first express ##x## and ##y## in terms of ##t## and then differentiate w.r.t. ##t## or let ##F## be expressed in ##x## and ##y## then use the chain rule
$$
\frac{dF}{dt} = \frac{\partial F}{\partial x} \frac{dx}{dt} + \frac{\partial F}{\partial y} \frac{dy}{dt} .
$$
Both answers should be identical.
I guess this problem should belong to multivariate calculus.
In the linked pdf file, the author for some reason sets ##\Delta t = 1##.Svein said:I do not agree with the formula shown in the OP (dimensional analysis again). The picture states that [itex]\frac{d}{dt}x(t) = \Delta x[/itex] which is obviously wrong. If x is distance and t is time, it tries to assert that velocity equals a (short) distance. The correct statement is [itex]\frac{d}{dt}x(t) \cdot \Delta t= \Delta x[/itex].
I can agree with the second line, but the third line is pure nonsense.