Taylor Series Expansion of Analytic Function at x0 = 0

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The discussion centers on the treatment of the expression \(0^0\) in the context of Taylor series expansions for analytic functions, particularly at \(x_0 = 0\). Participants explore the implications of defining \(0^0\) as 1 versus considering it indeterminate, examining continuity, notation, and the behavior of calculators with respect to this expression.

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that defining \(0^0\) as 1 is a matter of notational convenience, while others question whether this is an abuse of notation.
  • Continuity is presented as a key argument for defining \(0^0\) as 1, with discussions on the limits of \(x^0\) and \(0^y\) as \(x\) and \(y\) approach zero.
  • Concerns are raised about the inconsistency in how different calculators handle \(0^0\), with some returning 1, others returning an error, and some treating it as indeterminate.
  • Participants suggest various approaches to the issue, including accepting it as a convention, redefining exponentiation, or treating it with more mathematical rigor.
  • There is a discussion about the limit \(\lim_{x\to{0}^{+}}0^{x}\), with some asserting that it is not indeterminate and can be determined, while others express uncertainty.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the treatment of \(0^0\); multiple competing views remain regarding its definition and implications in mathematical contexts.

Contextual Notes

Participants express differing opinions on the necessity of defining \(0^0\) explicitly and the implications of such definitions on continuity and notation. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of mathematical conventions and the behavior of functions near zero.

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you know this, right?

[tex]f(x) = \sum^{\infty}_{k=0} \frac{f^{(k)}(x_0) (x-x_0)^k}{k!}[/tex]

for an analytic function, at x0 = 0, you have to say that 0^0 equals 1 for the constant term. if 0^0 is indeterminate then how can you just say it's 1 in this case?
 
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Because we define it to be so, merely out of notational convenience.

If we didn't do so, we would have to write something like:
[tex]f(x)=f(x_{0})+\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\frac{f^{(k)}(x_{0})(x-x_{0})^{k}}{k!}[/tex]

That expression is unnice.
 
arildno, but the expression that u gave is most mathematically rigorous, isn't it? is the instance of 0^0 called abuse of notation?
 
The question comes down to continuity. First, consider the expression [itex]x^0[/itex] and take the limit as x goes to zero. If we define [itex]0^0=1[/itex], then the function is continuous. But if we defined [itex]0^0=0[/itex], then it would not be continuous.

Now consider the expression [itex]0^y[/itex] and take the limit as y goes to zero. If we define [itex]0^0=1[/itex], then the function is not continuous. But if we define [itex]0^0=1[/itex], then it would be continuous.

It turns out to be much more convenient for [itex]x^0[/itex] to be continuous than [itex]0^y[/itex] to be continuous, so we define [itex]0^0[/itex] to be the limit of [itex]x^0[/itex] as x passes to zero. I suggest that it's not so much an abuse of notation as a shorthand for the limit.

(hey, 200th post :smile:)
 
lolgarithms said:
arildno, but the expression that u gave is most mathematically rigorous, isn't it? is the instance of 0^0 called abuse of notation?

Without any EXPLICIT definition of that in this particular case, the expression [itex](x-x_{0})^{0}[/tex] is to be understood as identically equal to 1, yes, then you might call it an "abuse of notation".<br /> <br /> However, due to the continuity argument given in the last post, most would regard such explicit definition as needlessly pedantic, and that it is "self-evident" what is meant by the expression.[/itex]
 
One question I'd like to ask here then is regarding calculators. My ipod touch's calculator for example (because it was the first thing I reached for, not that I used it for undergraduate astrophysics homework or something) does 0^0 as 1. However I had a graphing program installed on it (for giggles) and it plots x^0 at x = 0 as 0.

Then I plotted it on my regular graphing calculator (TI 83 plus Silver), and X^0 is obviously 1 at all points except 0. Where it says "Y = ". Aka nothing at all.

When you type in 0^0 on that calculator it shows up as error:domain.

So is 0^0 just a fad? Some people say its 1, some people say its indeterminate, no one says its 0?
 
There are three things you can do:

(1) Don't think about it; just accept it as convention and move on
(2) Redefine exponentiation of real numbers to include 00=1
(3) Do a more careful treatment of mathematical grammar

I much prefer (3) -- I don't like (1) and exponentiation of real numbers isn't really what's going on here, so I don't find (2) justified.
 
So is 0^0 just a fad? Some people say its 1, some people say its indeterminate, no one says its 0?

And what, exactly, would you say that [itex]\lim_{x\to{0}^{+}}0^{x}[/itex] ought to be?
 
arildno said:
And what, exactly, would you say that [itex]\lim_{x\to{0}^{+}}0^{x}[/itex] ought to be?

I have no answer to that (aka it's indeterminate), nor was I attempting to be a smart alec as I feel you are judging me to be. I'm just asking if various people treat the value differently because I noticed various calculators treat it differently.
 
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Hint:

The limiting value of that expression is NOT indeterminate. It provably exists. See if you can determine it! :smile:
 
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The answer is 0
 
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protonchain said:
The answer is 0
Quite so.
 

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