Which x_0 to use in a Taylor series expansion?

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The discussion revolves around the use of Taylor series expansions, specifically focusing on how the choice of the expansion point \( x_0 \) affects the resulting series. Participants explore the implications of different \( x_0 \) values on the coefficients and the representation of functions, particularly polynomials versus non-polynomial functions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about why the Taylor series changes with different \( x_0 \) points, using \( f(x) = x^2 \) as an example.
  • Another participant points out that the Taylor expansions yield the same function \( f(x) = x^2 \) but emphasizes the importance of including all terms in the expansion, particularly the second derivative term at \( x_0 = 0 \).
  • A different participant explains that changing \( x_0 \) alters the coefficients of the Taylor series, providing specific coefficients for expansions around \( x_0 = 0 \) and \( x_0 = 2 \).
  • One participant notes that for polynomials, the Taylor series will represent the polynomial accurately if enough terms are included, contrasting this with non-polynomial functions.
  • Another participant reiterates that the coefficients of the Taylor series depend on the derivatives of the function at the chosen point \( x_0 \), indicating that all derivative values can change with different \( x_0 \) selections.
  • A participant corrects earlier claims by providing a more detailed formulation of the Taylor series for \( f(x) = x^2 \) at both \( x_0 = 0 \) and \( x_0 = 1 \), suggesting that a non-polynomial function would better illustrate the question of term significance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the mechanics of how Taylor series work and the role of derivatives in determining coefficients. However, there is disagreement regarding the interpretation of the series at different points and the implications for polynomial versus non-polynomial functions.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the importance of including all relevant terms in the Taylor series expansion, indicating that missing terms can lead to misunderstandings. The discussion also touches on the limitations of Taylor series for functions with finite radii of convergence.

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I already learn to use Taylor series as:

f(x) = ∑ fn(x0) / n! (x-x0)n

But i don´t see why the serie change when we use differents x0 points.

Por example:

f(x) = x2

to express Taylor series in x0 = 0

f(x) = f(0) + f(0) (x-0) + ... = 0 due to f(0) = (0)2

to x0=1 the series are totally differents

f(x) = 1 + 2(x-1) + (x-1)2 this is the parabola

Why happens this?

and, when we use the Taylor series, which situations we said that we can despreciate some terms, like cuadratic terms?
 
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If you calculate both Taylor expansions, you get ##f(x)=x^2## in both cases. I cannot see, whether you did this right as you skipped the term ##\frac{1}{2!}f''(0)\cdot (x-0)^2 =x^2## in the first case. Differentiation is a local property, and a local approximation. Thus it makes sense to study local behavior as in general - other than your example - functions might behave differently at different locations. This becomes especially interesting, if the radius of convergence isn't infinite.
 
A Taylor series is a series in powers of x - a. If you change a, the coefficients will change as well.
If we look at your example of f(x) = x2, the Taylor series in powers of x - 0 (the Maclaurin series), is
##x^2 = 0 + 0x + 1x^2##
Here the coefficients are ##a_0 = 0, a_1 = 0##, and ##a_2 = 1##.

If we look at the Taylor series in powers of x - 2, we have ##x^2 = 4 + 4(x - 2) + 1(x - 2)^2##. The coefficients of this Taylor series are ##a_0 = 4, a_1 = 4##, and ##a_2 = 1##.

If the Taylor series is expanded around some other number, you'll get different values for ##a_0## and ##a_1##, but you'll always get ##a_2 = 1##.
 
For polynomials, the power series will always be the polynomial if you include enough terms (n+1 if the polynomial has degree n). There are other functions where this is not true, e.g. f(x)=1/x.
 
The coefficients of the Taylor series are related to the derivatives of increasing order of the function at the point x0. When you change x0, all the derivative values can change and all the coefficients change.
 
morenopo2012 said:
Por example:

f(x) = x2

to express Taylor series in x0 = 0

f(x) = f(0) + f(0) (x-0) + ... = 0 due to f(0) = (0)2

Instead of that, you should have:

##f(x) = x^2|_{x=0} + (2x)|_{x=0} (x-0) + (2)|_{x=x0} (x-0)^2/2 ##
## = 0 + 0 + x^2 ##
to x0=1 the series are totally differents

f(x) = 1 + 2(x-1) + (x-1)2 this is the parabola

Instead of that, you should have
##f(x) = 1 + 2(x-1) + 2(x-1)^2/2 ##
##= 1 + 2x - 2 + (x^2 - 2x + 1)##
## = x^2 ##

To illustrate you question, you need to pick a function f(x) that is not a polynomial.
 

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