Taylor's theorem: What does the a represent?

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The discussion revolves around Taylor's theorem and the significance of the variable 'a' in the context of function approximation. Participants explore the implications of choosing different values for 'a' and how it affects the approximation of functions.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Some participants question the necessity of setting 'a' to 0, noting that 'a' can be any point where the series is expanded. Others discuss specific scenarios, such as Taylor expansions around potential wells in physics, to illustrate the flexibility in choosing 'a'.

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The conversation is active, with participants providing insights into the nature of Taylor series and addressing misconceptions about the choice of 'a'. There is a recognition of the importance of understanding the context in which the approximation is made, although no consensus has been reached on the best practices for selecting 'a'.

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Participants highlight that the choice of 'a' can lead to different approximations and that certain functions may require specific values for effective expansion. There is also mention of the limitations of power series expansions, particularly regarding their validity within certain intervals.

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Taylor's theorem states:
f(x)=\displaystyle\sum_{k=0}^{infinity}{\frac{(f(^k(a)(x−a)^k)}{n!}}

When approximating a function, we always set a=0, and it gives an approximation for the whole function.

Why set the a=0? What does the a reperesent?
Thank you.

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You don't always set a=0. You can set a to whatever number you want. In all cases, the point a is the point that you expand the series about--a point that, in principle, you should know several derivatives of the function at in order to construct an approximation. There is no reason this point must be the origin, though often times, it is.

For example, in physics one often Taylor expands around the bottom of a potential well. Even if the well is not centered on the origin, this is a valid thing to do. One takes a to be where the minimum of the well lies, and immediately, one knows that f'(a) = 0 because the point is a minimum. This derivative being zero is equivalent to saying the force at an equilibrium point is zero, and knowing that the first non-vanishing term in the expansion is quadratic in x-a tells us that, very close to the minimum, any potential can be approximated as a simple harmonic potential, which also goes as (x-a)^2.
 
dawn_pingpong said:

Homework Statement



Taylor's theorem states:
f(x)=\displaystyle\sum_{k=0}^{infinity}{\frac{(f(^k(a)(x−a)^k)}{n!}}

When approximating a function, we always set a=0, and it gives an approximation for the whole function.

Why set the a=0? What does the a reperesent?
Thank you.

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The Attempt at a Solution


Your statement "When approximating a function, we always set a=0, and it gives an approximation for the whole function" is false: we do not always set a = 0, and even when we do we do not necessarily approximate the "whole function". For example,
\frac{1}{1-x} = 1 + x + x^2 + x^3 + \cdots, but this is valid only if -1 < x < 1. So, if you want to expand f(x) = 1/(1-x) in a power series near x = 2, for example, you would need to expand in powers of (x-2), not x. In fact,
\frac{1}{1-x} = \frac{1}{-1 + 2-x} = \frac{-1}{1 + (x-2)} = -1 + (x-2) - (x-2)^2 + \cdots. This is valid for |x-2| < 1, or 1 < x < 3.

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Okay, thank you! so basically, it is the estimation around the point x=a, and the further it deviates from a the more inaccurate? For example, evaluating the value of e, without using a calculator, we still set a=0, because thenf^n(a) will be 1, and it will be easy to calculate, though there will be an error term?
 
dawn_pingpong said:
Okay, thank you! so basically, it is the estimation around the point x=a, and the further it deviates from a the more inaccurate? For example, evaluating the value of e, without using a calculator, we still set a=0, because thenf^n(a) will be 1, and it will be easy to calculate, though there will be an error term?

The infinite series has error = 0. However, if you have a non-polynomial function you will get an error if you do not actually include all of the infinitely many terms.

RGV
 
By the way, the special case of Taylor's series using the specific value a= 0, is called the "MacLaurin series".
 

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