TDS2004B Oscilloscope Accuracy Determination

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on determining the accuracy of the Tektronix TDS2004B oscilloscope during the Franck-Hertz experiment. The oscilloscope's DC reading accuracy is specified as ±(3% × reading + 0.1 div + 1 mV), which raises concerns about the precision of current measurements derived from voltage readings. The user is seeking clarification on whether current measurements can be assumed to have the same accuracy as voltage measurements based on Ohm's Law, given the high impedance characteristics of oscilloscopes. Additional details regarding the current probe specifications and the oscilloscope's settings are also provided for further analysis.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of oscilloscope specifications and accuracy metrics
  • Familiarity with the Franck-Hertz experiment and its data analysis
  • Knowledge of Ohm's Law and its application in electrical measurements
  • Experience with data plotting and regression analysis techniques
NEXT STEPS
  • Review the Tektronix TDS2004B manual for detailed specifications on current measurement accuracy
  • Investigate the specifications of the current probe used with the oscilloscope
  • Learn about error propagation in measurements to calculate accurate error bars for data analysis
  • Explore advanced data analysis techniques using Libre Calc for better visualization of measurement uncertainties
USEFUL FOR

Researchers, physics students, and laboratory technicians involved in experimental data analysis, particularly those working with oscilloscopes and electrical measurements in experiments like the Franck-Hertz experiment.

Jamison Lahman
Messages
142
Reaction score
35
Hello,
I recently did the Franck-Hertz experiment (a short summary of the experiment can be found here http://inpp.ohiou.edu/~roche/3701_web/man-fh-a3b.pdf).
I am currently doing data analysis and am having a hard time determining the accuracy of the oscilloscope, the Tektronix TDS2004B. I am fairly certain it was a DC current and according to page 131 of the manual (found here: http://inpp.ohiou.edu/~roche/3701_web/tektronix-tds.pdf) the accuracy of a DC reading is ±(3% × reading + 0.1 div + 1 mV).
My voltages range from 12V-65V so the precision of the smaller measurements is about 5x that of higher measurements? Additionally, I'm plotting current as a function of voltage and I can't find any mention of accuracy of current measurements. Am I supposed to assume current measurements are also within 3% according to Ohm's Law? I don't know exactly how oscilloscopes work, but I was under the impression they have many capacitors and transistors to get very high impedances so I am skeptical the assumption is applicable. Any guidance is appreciated. Thanks. (If any over information is important, let me know.)
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: berkeman
Engineering news on Phys.org
Jamison Lahman said:
Hello,
I recently did the Franck-Hertz experiment (a short summary of the experiment can be found here http://inpp.ohiou.edu/~roche/3701_web/man-fh-a3b.pdf).
I am currently doing data analysis and am having a hard time determining the accuracy of the oscilloscope, the Tektronix TDS2004B. I am fairly certain it was a DC current and according to page 131 of the manual (found here: http://inpp.ohiou.edu/~roche/3701_web/tektronix-tds.pdf) the accuracy of a DC reading is ±(3% × reading + 0.1 div + 1 mV).
My voltages range from 12V-65V so the precision of the smaller measurements is about 5x that of higher measurements? Additionally, I'm plotting current as a function of voltage and I can't find any mention of accuracy of current measurements. Am I supposed to assume current measurements are also within 3% according to Ohm's Law? I don't know exactly how oscilloscopes work, but I was under the impression they have many capacitors and transistors to get very high impedances so I am skeptical the assumption is applicable. Any guidance is appreciated. Thanks. (If any over information is important, let me know.)
Welcome to the PF.

Sorry, I clicked into your links briefly, but my attention span is short at the moment, unfortunately. (I'm at work)

Could you please show us the math that you are asking about? Please show your calcs using the datasheet accuracy and precision specs. What are you using for the current measurements? A current probe on the 'scope? What are the current probe's specs?

Sorry again if I'm skimming too much.
 
berkeman said:
Welcome to the PF.

Sorry, I clicked into your links briefly, but my attention span is short at the moment, unfortunately. (I'm at work)

Could you please show us the math that you are asking about? Please show your calcs using the datasheet accuracy and precision specs. What are you using for the current measurements? A current probe on the 'scope? What are the current probe's specs?

Sorry again if I'm skimming too much.
Thank you!
Basically, I have recorded data,
19vyibU.png
where the stars are the position of local maximum used in determining the period of atom excitation. Plotting the local maximum as a function of integers yields this graph,
mRRyYP9.png
to which the residual plot for linear regression looks like
xlDtjMJ.png
. As you can see on the residual plot, the precision of the later data points is much less pronounced which makes me somewhat uneasy. Basically, I am trying to figure out what the error bars associated with the residual plot should be. Right now, they're just a constant 3% of the voltage reading.
As for the current measurements, a cord, I am amusing a probe, was connected directly from the 3B Scientific™ Power Supply Unit for Franck-Hertz to the oscilloscope. I think the probe specifications can be found on page 137 (page 115 of the actual manual) http://inpp.ohiou.edu/~roche/3701_web/tektronix-tds.pdf. With this being said, I am not sure what this information means or how to use it to find accuracy of current readings. Additionally, the specs for the PSU can be found here: https://www.fishersci.com/shop/products/3b-scientific-power-supply-unit-franck-hertz-experiment-115v-3/p-4085788#tab2 and "Output A for collector current I: I = UA ™ 7nA/V (0 to 12V)." maybe be of some importance though I am unsure.

The raw CSV file from the oscilloscope had the following included:
Record Length 2500
Sample Interval 0.00004
Trigger Point 1250

Source: CH1 CH2
Vertical Units: V A
Vertical Scale: 10 20
Vertical Offset: -44.4 -48.8
Horizontal Units: s s
Horizontal Scale: 0.01 0.01
Pt Fmt: Y Y
Yzero: 0 0
Probe Atten: 10 10
Model Number TDS2004B TDS2004B
Serial Number C031499 C031499
Firmware Version FV:v22.16 FV:v22.16

Also, not sure if its important, but I am using Libre Calc 32-bit
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
6K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
664
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
6K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
753
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 32 ·
2
Replies
32
Views
4K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K