TE, TM and TEM Modes in Lasers

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The discussion revolves around the definitions and concepts of TE, TM, and TEM modes in the context of lasers, particularly semiconductor laser diodes. Participants express confusion regarding the reference planes and the distinctions between these modes, seeking clarity on their definitions and applications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the definitions of TE and TM modes, particularly in relation to reference planes in semiconductor laser diodes.
  • Another participant suggests a resource that may provide clarity on the topic.
  • A different participant notes that TE and TM definitions for waveguides and lasers are similar, specifically mentioning the orientation of the electric field in TE mode.
  • A participant provides definitions for TE, TM, and TEM modes, explaining the conditions for each mode regarding the electric and magnetic field components.
  • There is a suggestion that while TE and TM definitions are usually consistent across waveguides and lasers, it is advisable to verify these definitions in specific contexts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the definitions and applications of TE, TM, and TEM modes, indicating that multiple views and uncertainties remain in the discussion.

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Participants highlight the potential for varying definitions based on context, such as waveguides versus lasers, and express the need for further verification of these definitions.

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Greetings everyone,

I am confusing the definitions in the title of the post all the time. I have books about lasers, yet none of them explain these concepts lucidly and clearly in my opinion. For example, what is our reference plane when we are dealing with semiconductor laser diodes and mention TE and TM modes? How can a mode be TEM; are there two reference planes? These sort of questions always confuse my mind and the books I found usually aim too high or too low with regard to my level in my opinion. Where can I learn these definitions by heart? Please do not hesitate to post your suggestions and ideas.

Thanks in advance
 
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Does this help: http://www.imedea.uib.es/~salvador/coms_optiques/addicional/ibm/ch02/02-13.html
 
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UltrafastPED said:
Does this help: http://www.imedea.uib.es/~salvador/coms_optiques/addicional/ibm/ch02/02-13.html

Thanks, I will have a through look on this text, by the way I think TE and TM definitions for waveguides and lasers are similar. That is for example in a semiconductor laser in TE mode electric field of the wave is perpendicular to the p and n type planes at the end of semiconductor materials.
 
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A TE mode is one where the B-field component in a given direction (typically z; whatever the longituinal direction is) is 0.
A TM mode is one where the E-field component in a given direction is 0.

A TEM mode is one where neither the Magnetic or Electric fields are 0 in said direction.

Remember modes = solutions to the PDE that governs the device. TE and TM definitions are usually the same for waveguides and lasers, but it is not compulsary...it always pays to double-check these things.

Claude.
 
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