Teach yourself kit on how to use capacitors and resistors

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the use of capacitors and resistors in conjunction with microcontrollers, specifically focusing on programming methods for microcontrollers without using a breadboard. Participants explore the requirements for loading programs onto microcontrollers and compare different types of programming interfaces.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their experience with a teach yourself kit that uses a serial interface for programming a microcontroller and seeks advice on programming without a breadboard.
  • Another participant notes that many mid- to high-end microcontrollers support in-circuit serial programming (ICSP) and suggests including a connector for ICSP programming in the design.
  • A question is raised about the difference between a PIC programmer and an ICSP programmer, leading to clarification that PIC refers to a specific brand of microcontroller.
  • One participant references a previous thread discussing similar topics and suggests looking into Picaxe chips, which offer onboard programming at a lower cost.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of familiarity with programming methods and microcontroller types, indicating that there is no consensus on the best approach for programming without a breadboard. Multiple viewpoints on programming methods and microcontroller options remain present.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not fully explore the specific requirements for ICSP programming or the compatibility of different programming tools with various microcontrollers, leaving some assumptions and dependencies unaddressed.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in electronics, microcontroller programming, and DIY projects involving capacitors and resistors may find this discussion relevant.

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So i decided to get this teach yourself kit on how to use capacitors and resistors and a stamp chip or something like that. Its working great and I'm making LED's flash and stuff...but it uses a serial interface to load the program I make into the stamp.

My question is, if i have a real thing made without using a breadboard then how to I get the program loaded onto the chip? also does each micro-controller have its own software to make programs?

P.S. anyone know where I can buy a bigger breadboard? this one was designed specifically for this kit...i kinda want a big one to start a cooler project :)
 
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Depends on the microcontroller, but in general most of the mid- to high-end ones support ICSP (in-circuit serial programming). To use this, you include some form of wire-to-board connector, such as a pin header or RJ-type modular jack, with traces going to the pins required for ICSP programming (typically 5 or 6 pins). You'll also need a programmer capable of ICSP programming.
 


Whats the difference between a PIC programmer and a ICSP programmer
 


PIC is a specific brand of microcontroller. A programmer for PIC uCs may or may not support ICSP programming.
 


We had a very similar thread a couple of weeks ago.

You might like to click on this:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=331073
and read through it.

Picaxe chips are the obvious choice and the language is almost identical to Stamp but at a fraction of the cost.
They do on-board proramming with a simple cable.

There are other suggestions in that thread, too.
 

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