Temperature and frequency in an organ pipe

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The discussion focuses on calculating the length of an organ pipe required to produce the note F4 at a given temperature T, using the formula L = (1/4)(v_s/f_F). The participants highlight the relationship between temperature and the speed of sound, which is expressed by the equation v = 331 + 0.6T, where T is in °C. Additionally, they mention the need to understand how the bulk modulus (B) and density (rho) of air vary with temperature to further analyze frequency changes. The wavelength can be derived using the formula v = λf, linking speed, wavelength, and frequency.

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The frequency of the note {\rm F}_4 is f_F.

1. If an organ pipe is open at one end and closed at the other, what length must it have for its fundamental mode to produce this note at a temperature of T? The speed of sound is v_s.

I used the equation f_n = \frac{nv}{4L}. Plugging in known values resulted in L = \frac{1}{4}\frac{v_s}{f_F}. This is correct.

2. At what air temperature will the frequency be f? (Ignore the change in length of the pipe due to the temperature change.)

I have no idea how to start this.
 
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will the frequency be f? What's the value of f?

I know the speed of sound varies at different temperatures. Our book/teacher never gave us a formula though. Velocity of sound is given by v = sqrt(B/rho). Where B is the bulk modulus of air and rho is the density. So if you can figure out how B and rho varie with temperature you should get somewhere.

Maybe someone else can help further...
 
You're right about temperature affecting velocity; my book made explicit mention of that.

But, it, too gave no formula for this type of problem in the respective section.
 
I asked my professor and he gave an equation where frequency is 331 + 0.6T.

I tried this, but was unsuccessful.

How do I get wavelength from this?
 

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