# Terms of a geometric series and arithmetic series, find common ratio

1. May 21, 2012

### thekopite

1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

Different numbers x, y and z are the first three terms of a geometric progression with common ratio r, and also the first, second and fourth terms of an arithmetic progression.
a. Find the value of r.
b. Find which term of the arithmetic progression will next be equal to a term of the geometric progression.

I haven't tackled part b. yet but I'm guessing it must be quite straightforward once r is found, but for now I'm having major issues with a.

2. Relevant equations

So far I've come up with r=y/x=z/y (since all are different versions of the common ratio of the geometric progression), z-y = 2(y-x) (since y-x is the common difference of the arithmetic progression and z-y is the difference between the second and fourth terms) and y-x = y/x.

3. The attempt at a solution

However, I'm confused as to how to combine these equations in order to find r. All of my attempts have turned up hopelessly complex or just plain incorrect. Any suggestions as to the correct and most simple way to go about this would be appreciated, cheers.

2. May 21, 2012

### clamtrox

What you are doing looks entirely reasonable. So suppose you write
r = z/y, and then solve z = 3y-2x and plug it back in. You get a 2nd order equation for r.

3. May 22, 2012

### thekopite

So I managed to solve a. in the following manner:
r=y/x which means that y=rx, and since r=z/y, z=ry=(r^2)x
also z-y = 2(y-x), and plugging in the above values (in terms of x) of z and y I get x(r^2) - rx = 2rx - 2x
eliminating x from both sides of this equation gives (r^2) - 3r + 2 = 0, which gives me r=1 or 2.

However I'm having some problems with b.
I'm using the equation a(r^(n-1)) = a + (n-1) d, where a=x, r=2 and I need to solve for n.
Other than that, so far I've just been working in circles, and it's pretty frustrating. Where should I start looking for x and d? Do I even need to find x?

4. May 22, 2012

### clamtrox

What's the corresponding increase you make to the arithmetic sequence for each value of r? So if r=2, what does the arithmetic sequence look like?