The acceleration of a ramp and mass

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The discussion centers on the acceleration of a ramp (mass M) and a mass (m) resting on it, both on a frictionless surface. The equations provided for the accelerations are aM = 2mgsinxcosx / (M + m(sinx)^2) and am = [(M + m)gsinx] / (M + m(sinx)^2). Participants express confusion regarding the presence of the term m(sinx)^2 in the equations, questioning its dimensional validity and relevance in the context of acceleration. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly interpreting the physical meanings of the terms involved in the equations.

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I have a qns whereby a ramp of mass M rests on a frictionless floor and a mass m rests on the ramp, with no friction in between the mass and ramp. I need to find the acceleration of ramp M and mass m.
I have the answers but I don't really understand them.
aM= 2mgsinxcosx/M+m(sinx)^2 . I don't understand why is there a msin^2 term here
am=[(M+m)gsinx]/M+(msinx)^2 . Again I don't understand why is there a msin^2 and how does M factor into the acceleration.
Can someone pls teach mr how to get the ans?
 
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Luca 123 said:
aM= 2mgsinxcosx/M+m(sinx)^2 . I don't understand why is there a msin^2 term here
am=[(M+m)gsinx]/M+(msinx)^2 . Again I don't understand why is there a msin^2 and how does M factor into the acceleration.
Something is very wrong here.
Dimensional analysis:
  • aM is force.
  • 2mgsinxcosx/M is acceleration.
  • m(sinx)^2 is mass.
  • am is force.
  • [(M+m)gsinx]/M is acceleration.
  • (msinx)^2 is mass.
 
Svein said:
Something is very wrong here.
Dimensional analysis:
  • aM is force.
  • 2mgsinxcosx/M is acceleration.
  • m(sinx)^2 is mass.
  • am is force.
  • [(M+m)gsinx]/M is acceleration.
  • (msinx)^2 is mass.
Oops I am sorry by aM I mean acceleration of M and by am I mean acceleration of m.
 
Luca 123 said:
Oops I am sorry by aM I mean acceleration of M and by am I mean acceleration of m.
You are still in trouble. According to your statement now:
  • aM is acceleration.
  • 2mgsinxcosx/M is acceleration.
  • m(sinx)^2 is mass.
  • am is acceleration.
  • [(M+m)gsinx]/M is acceleration.
  • (msinx)^2 is mass2.
 
Svein said:
You are still in trouble. According to your statement now:
  • aM is acceleration.
  • 2mgsinxcosx/M is acceleration.
  • m(sinx)^2 is mass.
  • am is acceleration.
  • [(M+m)gsinx]/M is acceleration.
  • (msinx)^2 is mass2.
I am very sorry. I should have made this clearer.
Acceleration of M=(mgsinxcosx)/[M+(msinx)^2]
Acceleration of m=[(M+m)gsinx]/[M+(msinx)^2]
It should be correct now
I don't understand why is (msinx)^2 a mass component of the acceleration
 
Luca 123 said:
[M+(msinx)^2]
You are still wrong. If M and m are masses, (msinx)^2 is mass squared, and you cannot add mass and mass2 (whatever that might be).
 
Exactly. That is what I don't understand about the ans. So is the ans given wrong?
 
Luca 123 said:
I have a qns whereby a ramp of mass M rests on a frictionless floor
Homework questions belong in the homework forum. Very few people see posts in this Introduction forum.
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/projectile-motion.795148/#post-4993780
 

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