The arclength of a parametrized segment (integration).

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The discussion revolves around finding the arclength of a parametrized segment between two points p and q in ℝ^n using a specific formula. The original poster attempts to apply the formula for arclength but encounters difficulties with the integration process to derive ||p - q||.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the need to explicitly define the parameterization of the line segment between points p and q. There is an exploration of the correct parametrization and its implications for integration.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided hints regarding the parameterization of the segment and suggested calculating the derivative to facilitate integration. The discussion is ongoing, with participants actively working through the implications of their findings.

Contextual Notes

There is a recognition that the original interval [p, q] is not suitable for integration in the context of ℝ^n, prompting a reevaluation of the parameterization approach.

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Homework Statement


For two points p and q in ℝ^n, use the formula (20.3) to check that the arclength of the parametrized segment from p to q is ||p - q||.


Homework Equations


Formula (20.3):
A smooth parametrized path [tex]\gamma: [a, b]→ℝ^n[/tex]is rectifiable, and its arclength l is given by
[tex]l = \int_{a}^{b}||\gamma '||[/tex]


Norm of a point x = (x_1, ... , x_n) in ℝ^n is defined in this book as
[tex]||x|| = \sqrt{x_1^2 + ... + x_n^2}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]\gamma: [q, p]→ℝ^n[/tex]
is defined as
[tex]\gamma (t) = (\gamma _1 (t), \gamma _2 (t), ... , \gamma _n (t))[/tex]
[tex]t \in [q, p][/tex]
then
[tex]\gamma '(t) = (\gamma _1 '(t), ... , \gamma _n '(t))[/tex]
[tex]||\gamma '(t)|| = \sqrt{(\gamma _1 '(t))^2+ ... + (\gamma _n '(t))^2}[/tex]

[tex]l = \int_{q}^{p} \sqrt{(\gamma _1 '(t))^2+ ... + (\gamma _n '(t))^2} dt[/tex]

I can't figure out how to integrate this though to get to ||p - q||.
 
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You need to write out the actual parameterization. Start with ##p=(p_1,p_2,...,p_n)## and ##q = (q_1,q_2,...q_n)##. Write out the parameterization of the line pq and work out the integral.
 
I just realized p and q are in ##ℝ^n##. So [p, q] isn't an interval I can integrate over.
I just found the equation I should probably use: ##\gamma:[0,1]→ℝ^n## defined as ##\gamma (t) = tq + 1(1 - t)p## for ##t \in [0, 1]##.
Thanks for the hint.
 
Yami said:
I just realized p and q are in ##ℝ^n##. So [p, q] isn't an interval I can integrate over.
I just found the equation I should probably use: ##\gamma:[0,1]→ℝ^n## defined as ##\gamma (t) = tq + 1(1 - t)p## for ##t \in [0, 1]##.
Thanks for the hint.

Good start. Now calculate ##|\gamma'(t)|## and work out the ##t## integral. You can do it by components or work at this level.
 

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