The axiom of choice one a finite family of sets.

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The discussion centers on the Axiom of Choice concerning finite families of nonempty sets, asserting that a choice function exists since elements can be manually selected from each set. It is confirmed that for a finite number of sets, one can construct a choice function through a straightforward process, requiring a finite number of steps. The proof for a specific finite family can be done by listing the sets and selecting an element from each. However, a more general proof involves using mathematical induction to demonstrate that any finite family of nonempty sets has a choice function. Overall, the existence of a choice function for finite families of sets is both intuitive and provable.
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The axiom of choice on a finite family of sets.

I just been doing some casual reading on the Axiom of CHoice and my understanding of the is that it assert the existence of a choice function when one is not constructable. So if we have a finite family of nonempty sets is it fair to say we can assume the existence of a choice function because it is always possible, in theory, to manually pick an element of each set?
 
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Thanks. Do you know if this can be proved?
 
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gottfried said:
Thanks. Do you know if this can be proved?

The proof is trivial. If there are n (non-empty) sets, pick a member from the first, then from the second. This requires n steps - so it can be done.
 
It seemed too trivial, to be true. Thanks.
 
It depends.
Only if you have an explicitly finite family of nonempty sets, that you can list : E1,...En then you can use a proof whose length is proportional to n :
Let x1 in E1,
Let x2 in E2,
...
Let xn in En
then (x1,...,xn) is in the product, which is thus nonempty.

But for the mathematical statement of the general case "Any finite family of nonempty sets has a choice function" it needs a different proof, namely it can be done by rewriting the claim as "For any natural number n, any family of n nonempty sets has a choice function" to be proven by induction on n.
 
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