The best approach to get your prerequisites(Math, Sciences, English)

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The discussion revolves around strategies for a 20-year-old seeking to complete prerequisites for a computer science program, particularly focusing on challenges related to commuting, work conflicts, and the feasibility of online tutoring or self-study options.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that local community colleges may provide solutions, recommending meeting with a counselor and considering self-study with occasional tutoring.
  • Another participant shares a personal anecdote about managing homework during bus rides and emphasizes the importance of motivation and effort.
  • A participant expresses caution regarding the "testing out" option, noting that some universities require letter grades for certain classes.
  • There is a clarification that while testing out of remedial classes is possible, it may not apply to higher-level courses like calculus.
  • One contributor argues against online courses and testing out, advocating for the benefits of physically attending classes.
  • Concerns are raised about the high cost of textbooks, suggesting that working while studying could alleviate financial burdens.
  • A participant shares their experience of commuting three hours daily to community college and mentions the potential benefit of financial aid to reduce work hours.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of opinions regarding the best approach to completing prerequisites, with some advocating for online and self-study options while others emphasize the value of in-person classes. No consensus is reached on the effectiveness of testing out of courses.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions about university policies on testing out of classes and the importance of letter grades, which may vary by institution. The discussion also reflects differing views on the balance between work and study commitments.

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Hi,

I am a 20 year old looking to work on my prerequisites for something like computer science. The problems are that:

1) Commuting is going to be difficult, I don't currently have a car. Otherwise busing is 40 minutes.

2) Work may conflict, but I can quit if necessary.

Are there integrative solutions, such as working online with a tutor on a weekly bases? I am interested in your own solutions and anecdotes here.
 
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Your local community college may offer solutions for your situation; I would take the bus ride and meet with a counselor there.

One of our sons had a similar predicament; he learned to do homework on the bus ride!

The other approach is self-study, though a tutor may have to be available from time-to-time. Then when you are confident of the material, you can "test out" of that subject. Check with the local community college to see which courses for which this is possible.

A good online site for math is "Paul's Online Math Notes": http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/

But the most important element is your motivation and effort! So somebody to talk to, and perhaps work with, can be very useful. Best if it is a fellow student, because then it is free.
 
Conveniently enough, I do have a few 'fellow students' to work with. I think I will try to talk to an academic adviser soon.

The self-study approach with "testing out" sounds good, I think I can prepare for the fall semester and then do assessments and work from there..
 
Becareful with the testing out option. Some universities require that classes be taken with a letter grade. To my knowledge UCLA and Berkley want a letter grade. Please correct me if I am wrong. I am also on the bus amd it takes me an hour to get to school. I read my txtbook on the bus. While I am reading say a mathbook i look at the section and try to get an intutive feel. Then when I have time to sit somewhere I solve problems.
 
Correctipn on my part. You can test out of classes. Ir for example a chemistry, physics, englisj prep class that prepares you for college introduction level class.

You can also do it for math. Say you are in intermediate algebra but you self studied and you can do pre calculus propblems really well. You can test out the remedial math and go into a calculus 1 class.

BUT YOU CANNOT test out of calculus 1 because that is a class the unvieraity is asking for.

Hope i was clear.
 
Blackwinter said:
Hi,

I am a 20 year old looking to work on my prerequisites for something like computer science. The problems are that:

1) Commuting is going to be difficult, I don't currently have a car. Otherwise busing is 40 minutes.

2) Work may conflict, but I can quit if necessary.

Are there integrative solutions, such as working online with a tutor on a weekly bases? I am interested in your own solutions and anecdotes here.

1. Carpool with classmates if possible.

2. Don't quit right away, ideally, you'll want to work while going to CC, save as much money as feasible so when you go to university you won't go as deep into debt.

I'm wholly against online/testing out of courses/ and what not. I believe there is something tangible to gain by physically attending classes; well, most classes.

Practice for the assesment testing like you planned, then go from there.
 
And books are very expensive, it'll help to be working. Just look at the prices lately, you can easily pay $100-$200 per subject on books.
 
I bus 3 hours a day to my community college because it is worth it to me. I am not sure if Financial Aid is a option for you, but this allows me to work much less and go to school so this may be an option for you. I wish you the best and hope you stay in school. Even one class a semester will put you forward if that is the most you can do.
 

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