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The problem involves calculating the rotational speed required for a flywheel to store a specific amount of energy, using the principles of rotational kinetic energy. The context includes the application of flywheels as energy storage alternatives in electric vehicles.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the correct formula for the moment of inertia of a solid disk and its application in the energy equation. There are attempts to solve for angular velocity, with some participants questioning the conversion to revolutions per minute.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing feedback on each other's calculations and questioning the assumptions made regarding the moment of inertia. There is a focus on ensuring the correct formula and unit conversions are applied, though no consensus has been reached on the correct answer yet.

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There is confusion regarding the correct moment of inertia for a solid disk versus a solid sphere, and participants are addressing potential errors in unit conversion for the final answer.

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Homework Statement


A flywheel is a solid disk that rotates about an axis that is perpendicular to the disk and its center. Rotating flywheels provide a means for storing energy in the form of rotational kinetic energy and are being considered as a possible alternative to batteries in electric cars. The gasoline burned in a 298-mile trip in a typical midsize car produces about 1.1 x109 J of energy. How fast would a 13-kg flywheel with a radius of 0.34 m have to rotate in order to store this much energy? Give your answer in rev/min.


Homework Equations



K= 1/2 I w2

The Attempt at a Solution



1.1 x 109= .5 (13 (.34)2) w2
solved for w n got the wrong answer. Please tell me where I am going wrong!
 
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agadag said:

Homework Statement


A flywheel is a solid disk that rotates about an axis that is perpendicular to the disk and its center. Rotating flywheels provide a means for storing energy in the form of rotational kinetic energy and are being considered as a possible alternative to batteries in electric cars. The gasoline burned in a 298-mile trip in a typical midsize car produces about 1.1 x109 J of energy. How fast would a 13-kg flywheel with a radius of 0.34 m have to rotate in order to store this much energy? Give your answer in rev/min.


Homework Equations



K= 1/2 I w2

The Attempt at a Solution



1.1 x 109= .5 (13 (.34)2) w2
solved for w n got the wrong answer. Please tell me where I am going wrong!

Are you expressing your answer in rev/min? Are you sure you are using the right formula for the moment of inertia of a solid disk?
 
You used the wrong moment of inertia I Find the moment for a SOLID disc
 
Ok
so i found the moment of inertia of a solid to be 2/5mr2. Used that in the eqn to solve for angular velocity. Then I multiplied that number by 2pie n divided by 60 to get 6330.554 rev/min. This is wrong too! :/
 
agadag said:
Ok
so i found the moment of inertia of a solid to be 2/5mr2. Used that in the eqn to solve for angular velocity. Then I multiplied that number by 2pie n divided by 60 to get 6330.554 rev/min. This is wrong too! :/

That is the one for a solid sphere, you want the one for a solid disk (or cylinder).
 
Ok so I used 1/2Mr^2 for inertia.. and did the same thing as before and got 5666.367
still wrong...
uhhhhhh!
 
Based on what you said in post #4, I don't think you are converting to rev/min properly. You should be dividing by 2pi, and multiplying by 60. Look at your units carefully when you are doing this to make sure they work out to what they should be.
 

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