The Dangers of Smoking Cigarettes

[Monique]

I tell you what, I'll let someone smoke next to me as long as I can keep spraying Lysol at them. Hey, it's my right to get a couple of cans and spray them non stop in the face the whole time their smoke is in my face, right?

yeah, I've thought that that before too, lol

 

[Andy]

Sounds like a good idea to me!

 

[juvenal]

Smoking can serve purposes too. Anyway, driving and smoking are both dangerous and legal under certain restrictions.
I don't understand how someone can complain that some smokers are disrespectful of others and, in the same breath, say smokers shouldn't be allowed to smoke inside any building other than someone's home or even come near others if doing so offends them. Smokers must respect the wants of nonsmokers, but nonsmokers needn't respect the wants of smokers? That makes sense to you?

Smoking actually works better in some cases than caffeine in keeping you awake when you're driving. I don't know why - but it really works. If you find yourself having to drive from point A to point B and you're dead tired - smoke a cigarette or two - it may save your life. I'm serious. (Yes - I know- pull over to the side of the road, take a nap, blah, blah, blah).

 

[Moonbear]

I'm sure you'll want to bring cars back into it: what if my driving a car kills a pedestrian accidentally (no drinking involved). My choice to drive, right? Yes, but its also the pedestrian's choice to be on the road.

I'll even take this a step further. If that driver swerves onto the sidewalk, where pedestrians have every reason to expect they will be safe to walk without being in the middle of car traffic, then that driver is held responsible for every injury or death he/she causes.

If someone is sitting in a non-smoking section, where the non-smokers have every reason to expect they will be in a smoke-free environment, and a smoker walks in and lights a cigarette, do you see them taking any responsibility of ensuring they will cover the medical bills of any non-smoker who now develops a smoking related illness? What do you do for the asthmatic who spends the rest of their evening at the hospital because they were exposed to smoke where they had every reason to expect they had chosen a smoke-free place to visit?

If I walk up to an establishment that offers no non-smoking section, and clearly is a venue where smoking occurs (such as a bar), I do not ask the smokers to accommodate me, I make my choice to not enter that establishment. If I do choose to enter, I know what to expect and can't complain about the environment. On the other hand, if an establishment clearly states "No Smoking" at the entrance, I fully expect the smokers to make the same decision upon entering. They can either choose to enter anyway and abide by the no smoking policy, or they can choose to leave and find someplace that permits them to smoke.

In Monique's case, this is her home. She's not telling people not to smoke in their own entryway, but is asking them not to smoke in her own entryway, so that her non-smoking home doesn't stink of smoke. It would be no different if I stood at the doorway to your home and decided I really needed to spray myself with copious amounts of some cheap perfume so that the perfume odor began to coat your entryway and permeate into your house. You would have every right to ask me to stop spraying perfume or to ask me to leave (or even have me forcibly removed for trespassing if I persisted despite you making it clear I was not welcome; if you are not home when I am doing this, a large sign stating so would suffice, which is what Monique has done by posting a No Smoking sign).

Not only are they standing there to smoke, they are littering her property with cigarette butts and other trash. If you're going to smoke outdoors, don't litter the streets with your cigarette butts. Find a proper place to dispose of your trash.

 

[brewnog]

Smoking actually works better in some cases than caffeine in keeping you awake when you're driving. I don't know why - but it really works.

Yes, but I was almost run into once by some woman while she tried to smoke, talk on her mobile and apply lipstick simultaneously whilst driving.

Having a stick of tobacco burning at 700 Celcius whilst driving is a distraction, I wish anyone guilty of this the joy of crashing into a tree.

 

[motai]

How about, I come into the restaurant and I sit down at the table next to you and I take out a ghetto blaster...

 

[Monique]

Not only are they standing there to smoke, they are littering her property with cigarette butts and other trash.

An improvement: I woke up this morning and there are no sigarette buds! Now there's just an empty banana and tangarine peels lying in the entrance Maybe it's just a hungry person who stole fruits from the fruitstore next door and took the first hide-out..

*edit* yep, there's someone sleeping on my doorstep now at 1 in the afternoon life in the city..

 

[Wardw]

Smoked from 14-21. gave it up 23 years ago as it interfered with my voice as I was heavily into singing, but I must admit, the smell of good Borkum Riff pipe tobacco still hits a button somewhere deep within me, pity the taste is never equal to the smell.
But coffee... who could live without it, I can't even make it in the morning unless I've had one first.
Are pipes worse that cigarettes??

 

[brewnog]

Are pipes worse that cigarettes??

Depends if you prefer mouth cancer or lung cancer.

 

[Wardw]

They'll both get you in the end

 

[Monique]

With lung cancer you won't be able to breathe, with mouth cancer you won't be able to eat. It's the way you go that matters

 

[juvenal]

I wonder if fat and ugly people should not be allowed to go into public since they offend my visual sense. And wear Speedos while mowing the front lawn - something I saw in Hungary. (I remember reading a story a few years ago about a town in Italy that banned fat women from wearing bikinis at the beach).

 

[spender]

Soon the idiots gona make smoking tobacco a crime,I already get bad looks from people when smoking outside.
Actually one breaths in 100x more poison from car fumes, than from smoking.

 

[Moonbear]

Soon the idiots gona make smoking tobacco a crime,I already get bad looks from people when smoking outside.
Actually one breaths in 100x more poison from car fumes, than from smoking.

Well, that's why I don't go sucking on tailpipes or running the car with the garage door closed either.

 

[Moonbear]

I wonder if fat and ugly people should not be allowed to go into public since they offend my visual sense. And wear Speedos while mowing the front lawn - something I saw in Hungary. (I remember reading a story a few years ago about a town in Italy that banned fat women from wearing bikinis at the beach).

The difference is we're not complaining about looking at people smoking cigarettes, but by being forced to breathe their smoke. Those overweight people aren't forcing you to eat their food, there's no second-hand food consumption. They are only endangering themselves. As for the choice to mow one's lawn while wearing a speedo (aside from ), that's just plain stupid. I even try to avoid wearing shorts to mow the lawn because you never know what the lawnmower is going to kick back at you (definitely wear sturdy closed-toe shoes, not sandals...just in case).

 

[spender]

Walk more often and you will see(smell) what I mean.Soon idiots going to blame smog on cigarette smokers, I guaratee it.

 

[spender]

The difference is we're not complaining about looking at people smoking cigarettes, but by being forced to breathe their smoke. Those overweight people aren't forcing you to eat their food, there's no second-hand food consumption.

Smell of junk food is overwhelming everywhere, if one wants to go shoping to the mall or take break at the food court, person is forced to breath in that skunky junk food odour,who knows how many poisons and carcinogens are contained in it.?

 

[honestrosewater]

Gee, thanks for the hostility, but I prefer sarcasm. I guess no one got the part about cooperating and treating each other fairly. I certainly think it's disrespectful to blow smoke in someone's face and fair to require that certain places be smoke-free - and I never said otherwise. Anyway, I think this "discussion" is bad for my health- my blood pressure is high enough already.

 

[Moonbear]

Gee, thanks for the hostility, but I prefer sarcasm. I guess no one got the part about cooperating and treating each other fairly. I certainly think it's disrespectful to blow smoke in someone's face and fair to require that certain places be smoke-free - and I never said otherwise. Anyway, I think this "discussion" is bad for my health- my blood pressure is high enough already.

I don't think anyone has been hostile in response to your post, just pointed out that it didn't pertain to Monique's situation because we're talking about her property where she does have the right to a smoke-free environment if she requests it.

 

[Andy]

Origionally posted by spender
Soon the idiots gona make smoking tobacco a crime,I already get bad looks from people when smoking outside.
Actually one breaths in 100x more poison from car fumes, than from smoking.

Do you mean that say a mechanic is going to breath in more toxins than a smoker? The modern car has very clean exhaust fumes.

 

[klusener]

I have been brainwashed in school and home not to smoke, they always say it makes you act crazy like this -> http://www.cafe18.uni.cc/images/smilies/tease.gif

 

[Monique]

Ever noticed the deep wrinkles around the mouth of a long time smoker?

 

[spender]

Ever noticed the deep wrinkles around the mouth of a long time smoker?

I'm 38 and I smoke 25 years, no wrinlkes whatsoever (only yellow index/middle fingers from holding cigarettes ).Oh yeah! and kinda yellow teeth too :)

 

[Andy]

Your 38? You sound much younger than that.

 

[meteor]

I remember one friend of mine that when spat expulsed a mixture of mucus and blood. It was a consequence of his strong addition to tobacco. This was one of the reasons that I quit smoking

 

[spender]

Sure smoking is no good for health (as many other things in live) but this adolescent attitude of antismokers is laughable.
Some of the antismokers (very small part of them, mostly lawyers ) are just there for the money,the rest of them have nothing else going on in their lives so the jump on anti "everything" bandwagon.

 

[brewnog]

Sure smoking is no good for health (as many other things in live) but this adolescent attitude of antismokers is laughable.
Some of the antismokers (very small part of them, mostly lawyers ) are just there for the money,the rest of them have nothing else going on in their lives so the jump on anti "everything" bandwagon.

Most of them just don't like the smell, or the smoke, or when they get burnt by a pissed up bellend who forgets he's smoking!

 

[Monique]

but this adolescent attitude of antismokers is laughable.

If someone doesn't shower for a month, would you like to stand next to them? It is someone's own right or bussiness to not shower, but there is a limit to what is socially acceptable.

 

[singleton]

I'm in a Computer Programming course at college.

Bong 101 and Gaming are part of the required curriculum to pass ;)

I smoke copious amounts of marijuana, a few cigars and even a cig or two (not often). I don't throw it around in anyones face just as I'd expect them not to wear overpowering cologne, use anything but a push reel mower and drive, rather, ride only a bicycle ;)

 

[spender]

I'm in a Computer Programming course at college.

Bong 101 and Gaming are part of the required curriculum to pass ;)

I smoke copious amounts of marijuana, a few cigars and even a cig or two (not often).

Marijuana ?? Mmmmmmm .Where do you live Man ?

 

[juvenal]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=9&u=/ap/20050307/ap_on_fe_st/smelly_readers

 

[gerben]

I know this is an old thread, but I saw this quote and thought it would be appropriate:

"A smoking section in a restaurant is like having a peeing section in a pool"
- Dave Broadfoot

 

[Soilwork]

Yeah I got to say I don't smoke either.
I think there are more enjoyable things than breathing in smoke.
I don't really drink that much. I never get to the stage where I'm drunk that is, I just drink the amount that would keep me under the legal limit if I was driving.
Haha It's funny how I've actaully lost a few friends because I don't get pissed anymore or have never smoked weed with them.
They find it hard to believe that you can enjoy yourself and put up with them unless you're drunk or stoned.
The fact about the wrinkles above the lips is actually true.
You will see them eventually if you keep smoking for long enough.

 

[JamesU]

I'm not for smoking, but what really pisses me off are those antismokers who hate anyone who's ever touched a cigarette.(fags)