The electric field of a charged semicircle from its electric potential

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on calculating the electric field E(r) from the electric potential V(r) for a uniform line charge distribution λ on a semicircle of radius R. The electric potential is expressed as V(z) = K*Q/Sqrt(z^2 + R^2), where Q = λπR and K is the electric constant. The key insight is that to compute the electric field, one must consider the full potential V(x,y,z) and its derivatives, rather than just the potential along the z-axis. This approach resolves the initial misunderstanding regarding the gradient of the potential.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of electric potential and electric field concepts
  • Familiarity with calculus, particularly differentiation
  • Knowledge of vector calculus, specifically gradients
  • Basic principles of electrostatics and line charge distributions
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the derivation of electric fields from electric potentials in electrostatics
  • Learn about vector calculus, focusing on gradient and divergence operations
  • Explore the concept of line charge distributions and their effects on electric fields
  • Investigate the integral forms of electric potential and their applications in three-dimensional space
USEFUL FOR

Students and professionals in physics, particularly those studying electromagnetism, as well as educators looking for clear explanations of electric field calculations from potential functions.

sergioro
Messages
8
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement



A question involving the relationship between the electric
field E(r) and the electric potential V( r) is about computing the electric
field on the z-axis due to a uniform line charge distribution λ
spread out on a semicircle of radius R, lying on the first
half of the XY plane (0 ≤ θ ≤ π). A few points on the
semicircle are (x=R,y=0) at θ= 0, (x=0,y=R) at θ= π/2,
and (x=-R,y=0) at θ = π (I am using the symbol π as Pi).

Homework Equations



The electric potential V( r) is easily computed giving the result
V(z) = K*Q/Sqrt(z^2 + R^2). Q = λπR and K is the electric constant.

The Attempt at a Solution



The electric field is suppose to be
obtained via E = - grad(V) = - d(V(z))/dz. But this relation leads only
to one component of the electric field.

Could somebody point out what is missing?

Sergio
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Welcome to PF!

Hi Sergio! Welcome to PF! :smile:
sergioro said:
The electric field is suppose to be
obtained via E = - grad(V) = - d(V(z))/dz.

No, the gradient of V is the vector (∂V/∂x,∂V/∂y,∂V/∂z) :wink:
 


sergioro said:
The electric potential V( r) is easily computed giving the result
V(z) = K*Q/Sqrt(z^2 + R^2). Q = λπR and K is the electric constant.
Yes, but only knowing the potential on the z axis is not enough information to compute the field there. You also need to know how the potential will change if you move some infinitesimal off that axis. Can you compute the full potential V=V(x,y,z)?
 


All right, haruspex . I see the point now. Some how I was mislead
by the textbook.

After writing the potential at any point in space (x,y,z) and
Leaving it in integral form, I then computed its derivatives
with respect to each one of the components of the field
point (x,y,z). Then, setting x=y=0 on each one,
integration respect to the source variable yields the expected answer.

Thanks,

Sergio
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
1K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
1K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
1K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
3K
Replies
2
Views
681
  • · Replies 22 ·
Replies
22
Views
4K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
1K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
3K