The equipotential surface of a system of two unequal charges

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The discussion centers on determining the parameters of an equipotential surface created by two unequal, oppositely charged point charges. The equipotential surface is represented as a circle in a two-dimensional illustration, with the equation derived from the relationship between the distances to each charge and their magnitudes. The key equation, which describes the circle, is shown to be derived through algebraic manipulation involving the ratio of distances and proportionality constants. The values of the charges are specified as q1 = 2Q and q2 = -Q, leading to a specific proportionality constant k = 2. The conversation highlights the mathematical steps involved in deriving the equation and emphasizes the simplicity of the underlying concepts.
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How equation ##\left(x+\frac{d}{k^2-1}\right)^2+y^2=\left(\frac{kd}{k^2-1}\right)^2## is obtained?
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$$\frac{r_1^2}{r_2^2}=k^2=\frac{(d-x)^2+y^2}{x^2+y^2}$$
$$\left(x+\frac{d}{k^2-1}\right)^2+y^2=\left(\frac{kd}{k^2-1}\right)^2$$
We have a system of two unequal oppositely charged point charges, of which ##q_2## is smaller and ##d## is the distance between charges. There is an equipotential spherical surface of potential ##V=0## that encloses a charge of lesser absolute value. The task is to find parameters of that spherical surface, or more precisely circle, since the system is of course illustrated in two dimensions.

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First we take into consideration arbitrary point ##M(x,y)## where ##V=\frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon}\left(\frac{q_1}{r_1}+\frac{q_2}{r_2}\right)##. If we use ##V=0## it's easy to obtain ##\frac{r_1}{r_2}=-\frac{q_1}{q_2}=k## where ##k## is coeficcient of proportionality.

From the illustration, we can see that ##r_1^2=(d-x)^2+y^2## and ##r_2^2=x^2+y^2##. Then we have ##\frac{r_1^2}{r_2^2}=k^2=\frac{(d-x)^2+y^2}{x^2+y^2}## from which ##\left(x+\frac{d}{k^2-1}\right)^2+y^2=\left(\frac{kd}{k^2-1}\right)^2## is obtained. This equation is the equation of a circle shown in the illustration with coordinates of the circle center ##x_0=-\frac{d}{k^2-1}##, (##|x_0|=\frac{d}{k^2-1}##), and ##y_0=0##. The radius of the circle (equipotential sphere) is ##R=\frac{kd}{k^2-1}=k|x_0|##. How the equation ##\left(x+\frac{d}{k^2-1}\right)^2+y^2=\left(\frac{kd}{k^2-1}\right)^2## is derived?

For ##q_1## we have ##q_1=2Q##
and for ##q_2## we have ##q_2=−Q## which gives ##k=2##, but I don't see how that can help. Also, this problem uses the method of image charges because it comes after the lesson in my textbook where the method of image charges is explained.
 

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Hi,

I think your question

R A V E N said:
How the equation ##\left(x+\frac{d}{k^2-1}\right)^2+y^2=\left(\frac{kd}{k^2-1}\right)^2## is derived?
is asking to explain the steps in 'from which'
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Then we have ##\ \frac{r_1^2}{r_2^2}=k^2=\frac{(d-x)^2+y^2}{x^2+y^2}\ ##from which ##\ \left(x+\frac{d}{k^2-1}\right)^2+y^2=\left(\frac{kd}{k^2-1}\right)^2\ ## is obtained
right ?

Well, with $$\begin{align*}
k^2&=\frac{(d-x)^2+y^2}{x^2+y^2}\\ \mathstrut \\
k^2 x^2 + k^2 y^2&=x^2 -2dx +d^2 +y^2\\ \mathstrut \\
(k^2-1) x^2 + 2dx -d^2 + (k^2-1) y^2&=0\\ \mathstrut \\
x^2 + \left ({2d\over k^2-1} \right ) \,x - {d^2\over k^2-1} + y^2&=0\\ \mathstrut \\
\left (x + {d\over k^2-1} \right)^2 -\left ({d\over k^2-1}\right )^2 - {d^2\over k^2-1} +y^2 &=0\\ \mathstrut \\
\left (x + {d\over k^2-1} \right)^2 +y^2 &=\left ({d\over k^2-1}\right )^2 + {d^2\over k^2-1}\\ \mathstrut \\
\left (x + {d\over k^2-1} \right)^2 +y^2 &={d^2\over\left ( {k^2-1}\right )^2} + {d^2\left ( k^2-1\right ) \over \left (k^2-1\right )^2} \\ \mathstrut \\
\left (x + {d\over k^2-1} \right)^2 +y^2 &=\left ({dk\over k^2-1} \right )^2
\end{align*}$$
 
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Yes! Thank you very much! Very creative and intelligent answer!
 
It's not rocket science,, just a bit of high school math -- and I was really glad the target expression was given.

It also was a good ##\LaTeX## exercise :smile:

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