The First Weapon Of Mass Destruction

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The discussion centers on the relationship between Nazism, capitalism, and fascism. It argues that Nazism emerged as a reaction to the perceived threats of communism and working-class gains in Germany, fueled by the ruling classes' fear and hatred. The conversation highlights that Nazism is a derivative of capitalism, suggesting it can only exist within a capitalist framework. However, there is a counterargument asserting that Nazi Germany was fundamentally fascist rather than capitalist, emphasizing that fascism and capitalism can coexist but are distinct concepts. The debate touches on the nature of weapons, both physical and ideological, in the context of political power and oppression. Overall, the conversation reflects a complex interplay of economic and political ideologies, with participants debating the definitions and implications of these terms.
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Nazism was the first weapon of mass destruction and it was levelled against communism in Germany and Europe. When the nazis were on the brink of power the ruling classes pushed them over the brink with their hatred, fear and derision of working class gains in Germany and Europe at the time. Rebellion to capitalism was spreading and the ruling classes wanted a solution. Nazism is a reactionary derivative of capitalism and nothing else. It only exists in capitalism. Malcolm X always said 'you can't have capitalism without racism'.
 
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That doesn't make a whole lot of sense. A weapon is a specific item. An object, not a concept.

And the rise of Naziism had/has nothing to do with capitalism.
 
A weapon is not just a physical item, ie; propaganda as a weapon. Something used to defeat an enemy. But let's not play semantics, it wasn't the nature of this thread. Nazism can only exist in a capitalist world. Tell me what mean when you say it has nothing to do with it?
 
Nazi Germany wasn't capitalist. It was fascist. There's a huge difference.
 
pi-r8 said:
Nazi Germany wasn't capitalist. It was fascist. There's a huge difference.
Fascism and Capitalism are hardly exclusive of each other.
 
pi-r8 said:
Nazi Germany wasn't capitalist. It was fascist. There's a huge difference.

Yah there is a huge difference. One is not even an economic system!
 
flotsam said:
A weapon is not just a physical item, ie; propaganda as a weapon. Something used to defeat an enemy. But let's not play semantics, it wasn't the nature of this thread. Nazism can only exist in a capitalist world. Tell me what mean when you say it has nothing to do with it?
That's true. You know what else is? Tyrany can only exist in a government world.

ANARCHISM!
 
The first weapon of mass destruction was the human brain!
 
pi-r8 said:
Nazi Germany wasn't capitalist. It was fascist.
Your mom's fascist! ...last night.
 

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